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Hillary Won the Popular Vote....NOT!
California Political Review ^ | 11/11/2016 | HMV

Posted on 11/11/2016 9:40:07 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid

Per link, 13% of California illegal immigrants admitted to voting per a recent article in the California Political Review. If we use California votes alone, it will wipe out Hillary's thin lead in the popular vote.

If we very conservatively estimate on a national level (8 million illegal immigrants, 10% voting rate, 80% voting for Hillary) we come up with 640,000 votes. This completely blows away Hillary's lead, leaving Trump conservatively with a 400,000 vote lead.


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1 posted on 11/11/2016 9:40:07 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The United States Constitution enumerates on the Electoral College. It says nothing about ‘popular vote.’


2 posted on 11/11/2016 9:41:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Related:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/hillary_wins_the_popular_vote__not_.html

I’d love to see the absentees tallied. EVERY vote counts, right, lefties?!


3 posted on 11/11/2016 9:42:05 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

That’s good to know, although our Founders in their infinite wisdom understood that it matters not a whit how many extra insane voters California has, they do not control the will of the people as expressed in the Electoral College.


4 posted on 11/11/2016 9:42:35 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Subtract the illegal alien and vote fraud - and Trump wins the popular vote, too.


5 posted on 11/11/2016 9:42:47 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

In this election, it’s obvious!

The unpopular votes were the only ones that counted.

Take that DimocRats.


6 posted on 11/11/2016 9:43:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Don’t engage the left on popular vote. We won by the rules and that is all that matters. Let them stew over the injustice of this but who cares.


7 posted on 11/11/2016 9:46:03 AM PST by BRL
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Constitutionally, the popular votes means nothing and until the Electoral Votes are cast, the actual Electoral Votes mean nothing as Electors in many states can vote against the wished of the people of their state.


8 posted on 11/11/2016 9:46:51 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

And the Panthers outgained the Broncos by over 100 yards in the last Super Bowl.


9 posted on 11/11/2016 9:47:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

And, people have to understand, that campaigns would be rub differently, if the goal was to win the popular vote to be elected president.

Trump did not do any rallies or events in California during the general election campaign. The reason is that gaining more support from such events would not have earned any electoral.votes.

I like the anaology of sports, and winning games. Someone mentioned the 1960,World Series, in which the Yankees outscored the Pittsburgh Pirates, but the Pirates win the series, 4 games to 3. The goal there is to win the games, bring in relief pitchers, pinch hitters etc based on the game situation. The goal is not to simply score more and more runs in a game which is already decided.

So, Trump would likely have won the popular vote, if he had campaigned in Democrat states to gain such support. But because the election is decided state by state , not by the national popular vote, you will run your campaign to gain the maximum electoral votes.


10 posted on 11/11/2016 9:50:17 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

If there was a popular vote for President, the election would have played out differently. Trump and Hillary would be hitting California, Texas, New York, Illinois etc. More republicans in California would have come out to vote because their vote would have meaning. We have no idea what the popular vote would be if we had a popular vote election.


11 posted on 11/11/2016 9:50:55 AM PST by sharkhawk (GO CUBS GO)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The actual number of illegal aliens in the country is closer to 40 million and the number who are registered to vote is closer to 25%. I do not know what the participation rate in this election was, but I would assume that they were one of the more motivated demographics. At a minimum I would guess that there were 5 million illegal votes counted in this election.

Anyone who is an illegal alien who voted is a felon and should be first on the list of those to be deported or jailed.


12 posted on 11/11/2016 9:51:01 AM PST by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: beaversmom

This relates to a segment from yesterday’s “All Things Considered” on an app developed by liberals in SF that had some shocking results:

“When Mahan looked at the pledges, he didn’t see data among Republican voters to back up the trending hashtag #NeverTrump. Among registered voters on Brigade, 94.5 percent of Republicans pledged to vote for Trump and only 2.2 percent pledged to vote for Hillary Clinton.

That’s roughly what you’d expect.

Here’s where it gets fascinating: On the Democratic side, Mahan explains, “we saw something entirely different.” Only 55 percent of registered Democrats pledged to vote for the Democratic nominee.”

There was no mention of the probability that if anywhere near that many Democrats refused to vote for Clinton there is NO WAY that she won the popular vote.

Here’s a link to the actual audio: http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/10/501613521/an-app-saw-trump-winning-swing-states-when-polls-didnt


13 posted on 11/11/2016 9:52:29 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: dfwgator

And the Cleveland Indians outscored the Florida Marlins 44-37 in the 1997 World Series. Who cares that Florida won four games?


14 posted on 11/11/2016 9:52:31 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The Motor Voter Act, signed into law in 1993 by Bill Clinton opened the floodgates for non-citizens to vote. DMV staff are required to give all customers the opportunity to register to vote. It is not their responsibility to verify citizenship. And most local election boards don’t bother with anything other than verifying whether the address given is an actual address. It doesn’t help when the President of the country encourages non-citizens to vote and tells them they won’t be prosecuted.


15 posted on 11/11/2016 9:55:31 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Gaffer

Indeed. Winning the popular vote, while certainly not required, does calm things some.

Interesting how the major political news websites are failing to update the election results, not even reflecting the correct number of electoral votes. Probably don’t want to admit that he won in a landslide (psychologically set at EVs > 300) _and_ got the popular vote as well.


16 posted on 11/11/2016 9:56:21 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: beaversmom
I have heard absolutely NOTHING about the overseas military vote and how it affected any state results.

It has been a big deal before, why so silent now?

17 posted on 11/11/2016 9:57:06 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid; SpinnerWebb
The popular vote meme is an absolute strawman. The goal was 270EV .. that's what they were both aiming for.

Rolling out the "Hillary won the popular vote" crap now is like the Yankees playing the Redsox with a 6-0 lead in the bottom of the 9th and having Tom Brady run out on the field to throw a 40 yard pass to Gronkowski for a touchdown.

Redsox win 7-6 ???

I don't think

18 posted on 11/11/2016 9:58:23 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The popular vote is meaningless also because no candidate will a majority of the popular vote. If Hillary or Trump ends up with a “lead,” that means nothing since it will only be a plurality. Remember, her husband was elected President in 1992 with only 43% of the popular vote, far from a majority. The Electoral College is how you create your majority for President.


19 posted on 11/11/2016 10:00:22 AM PST by tellw
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To: dirtboy

And the Cubs and Indians both scored 20 runs in the World Series. They should have continued playing.


20 posted on 11/11/2016 10:00:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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