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Townhall.com ^ | November 16 | John Stossel

Posted on 11/16/2016 7:58:18 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Shut up!!!


61 posted on 11/16/2016 10:27:34 AM PST by Kaslin (All those who say President elect Donald J. Trump is not their President, can all JUMP OFF A CLIFF!!)
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To: Kaslin

I made screen captures on this site starting on 09/14/16. I captured the screen anywhere from one to five times per day.

Why? Because I knew this would happen. I knew the site would either disappear or the figures would be fudged.

I am taking this information from my 11/08/16 17:55 EDT screen capture.

Hillary 84.4% up 11.7% (lst wk), Trump 15.3% down 11.2% (lst wk). This is a little off from Stossel’s time capture.

My next capture was at 11/08/16 22:53 EDT.

Trump 81.6% up 55% (since 11/01), Clinton 17.7% down 56.6% (since 11/01)

As you can tell, the percentage moves in the five hours were in excess of these amounts.


62 posted on 11/16/2016 10:31:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: Emergencyawesome

Oh he probably did. Many of his colleges at FNB are Trump supporters


63 posted on 11/16/2016 10:32:44 AM PST by Kaslin (All those who say President elect Donald J. Trump is not their President, can all JUMP OFF A CLIFF!!)
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To: Pete

“This story is bizarre. What point is he trying to make?”

Ah,com’on...That he should be able to keep his job..simple...


64 posted on 11/16/2016 10:34:25 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Kaslin

I bet on d trump in October of last year, 7:1 odds, made a nice profit.


65 posted on 11/16/2016 10:38:17 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: econjack

I think the predictions were wrong because the polls failed to account for the popular/electoral vote split. Everyone was looking at national polls over and over. State polls were done and discussed much less frequently, and even less frequently were they compiled together by anybody to make an electoral prediction.

Granted, the people who did compile state polls still tended to show a Clinton win. However there were far fewer state polls to work with and they showed much more radical swings in results than the national polls, indicating unreliability.

It was a safe bet that the national polls wouldn’t switch to Trump’s favor rapidly enough for him to win the popular vote. But it was not a safe bet to think that Trump could not micro-target a few states right at the end and get his numbers up in a narrow area enough to win the electoral college.


66 posted on 11/16/2016 10:48:18 AM PST by JediJones (Social conservatism is the root of all conservatism.)
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To: Kaslin

John Stossel and the other prognosticators failed to predict events because the event they were trying to predict was then still in the future, which (at the time of their guessing) had not happened yet. Nothing is predetermined.

As a pofessional pursuit and a pastime, prediction is irreducibly probabilistic. No amount of data collection, no application of statistical methods, no reading of tea leaves or sheep entrails, no flipping of tarot cards, will overcome that truth.

Humans vary, and are inherently unredictable.


67 posted on 11/16/2016 11:14:00 AM PST by schurmann
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To: DoughtyOne

“Who bets $84.00 to win $100?”

Someone who thinks the outcome they bet on is almost a sure thing.

There were many Trump voters, including myself, who thought he was a long shot to win the Electoral College. One can hold that opinion and still bet on a Trump victory if the odds are favorable enough.

An important difference between a betting site and an election is that the former registers the intensity of preference by the participants (bettors), whereas in an election each participant (voter) is counted the same.

I think a simpler explanation for Hillary! being the odds-on favorite than that her supporters were “gaming the system” is that her true believers thought they had a near-sure thing and bid the odds to 5 or 6 to 1 in the process.


68 posted on 11/16/2016 11:20:19 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: DoughtyOne

I see you made some financial arrangements as well! Nice cleanup D1!


69 posted on 11/16/2016 11:27:09 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Easier to read

Thank you!!

70 posted on 11/16/2016 11:31:24 AM PST by China Clipper ( Animals? I LOVE animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: SuziQ

He did win OH, but I was driving around before the election.


71 posted on 11/16/2016 11:41:22 AM PST by econjack
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To: Kaslin
People just lie to pollsters when they think the pollster will sneer at them if they say they're voting for someone smugly described as racist and sexist.

This.

72 posted on 11/16/2016 11:46:29 AM PST by pa_dweller (Trump 290, Clinton 232 - The vote heard 'round the world.)
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To: econjack

I don’t know if they purposefully twisted the polls. I don’t accept the claim that people wouldn’t answer them honestly. It’s an anonymous phone call. I’ve done phone polls, honest ones and push polls. Push polls are pretty obvious and I think most of us hang up on them, but if I have time, I’ll talk to the honest ones.

I was polled for this election and I hung up on them. I was doing something else and I didn’t feel like dealing with them, so I don’t know if the poll was legitimate. I also didn’t want anything to do with the media during this election. They polled me in the middle of the wikileaks releases and I was thoroughly disgusted by then.

My cell phone has a Palm Beach County area code. I wonder if that’s why they called. I also wonder how many people refused to even talk to them.


73 posted on 11/16/2016 6:20:08 PM PST by sig226
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To: sig226
It’s an anonymous phone call.

Really? So there's no way for the caller to identify the person? I kind of doubt that.

74 posted on 11/16/2016 6:59:39 PM PST by econjack
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To: econjack

Ain’t nobody got time for that!


75 posted on 11/16/2016 7:02:26 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: riverdawg

I think that’s a decent alternate opinion, but I still don’t think people bet $840 dollars to win $1000.

There’s to much to lose, and these folks got their clocks cleaned.


76 posted on 11/16/2016 8:52:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: going hot

I hope you did as well. Easy money...

The best part, is knowing it isn’t sitting in a Leftist’s pocket anymore.

It’s sitting in mine.


77 posted on 11/16/2016 8:52:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: DoughtyOne

gravy, LOL!


78 posted on 11/16/2016 8:54:18 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: going hot

“;^)


79 posted on 11/16/2016 9:09:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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It was crunch time, Stossel, and you behaved like indolent teenager. Were you wasted the entire month of October?


80 posted on 11/16/2016 9:15:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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