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State of Michigan tells Detroit students 'Literacy is not a right'
Fox 2 Detroit ^ | 11/21/16 | M. L. Elrick

Posted on 11/22/2016 9:15:30 AM PST by Libloather

Attorneys for Michigan Governor Rick Snyder are asking a judge to toss out a lawsuit against the state of Michigan filed by students in the Detroit school system and claim that literacy is not a legal right in the state of Michigan.

Seven children filed the lawsuit in September, saying decades of state disinvestment and deliberate indifference to Detroit's schools have denied them access to literacy.

The plaintiffs say the schools have deplorable building conditions, lack of books, classrooms without teachers, insufficient desks, buildings plagued by vermin, unsafe facilities and extreme temperatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox2detroit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: detroit; education; literacy; michigan; students
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To: Bryanw92

“That’s the problem. Teachers won’t work. Students won’t work.”

Well, teachers can’t work if students don’t work. And if students don’t work, the failure is the parents’, or lack thereof. Nothing will change until one particular community decides to start forming actual families again.


21 posted on 11/22/2016 9:40:27 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: lacrew

It all makes me wonder how immigrants arrive here from Caribbean and African countries, which do not have 1/1000 the budget we do to spend on education, yet they are generally far more literate than the locals.


22 posted on 11/22/2016 9:40:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Boogieman

Brown vs. the board of education. Access to education is a right. Access to literacy is access to education. But willingness to learn is required to read. So, education itself is not a right. Just access to it.


23 posted on 11/22/2016 9:42:44 AM PST by poinq
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To: Libloather

Where these people have it wrong. Is that the real problem is not whether someone has a right to education or not. Its the misplaced right to teach badly or not at all. Its the right to be in school and stop others from learning.

The parents of those kids should move out of their neighborhood.


24 posted on 11/22/2016 9:46:17 AM PST by poinq
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To: Libloather

Ah, the old “Implied Warranty of Merchantability” gambit. Good luck with that.


25 posted on 11/22/2016 9:50:36 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Parents are responsible for the literacy of their children, not the government.”

Correct. I was going to post something similar. The family is key. In the past, the nuclear family provided support to their kids to ensure homework was completed, and that they studied. My mother made flash cards and worked with me to mater the “times” tables. Of course, she was a state at home mom and that helps a lot. Not really feasible in this day and age though.


26 posted on 11/22/2016 9:50:51 AM PST by ConsCA
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To: Boogieman

>>Well, teachers can’t work if students don’t work. And if students don’t work, the failure is the parents’, or lack thereof. Nothing will change until one particular community decides to start forming actual families again.

You are proving that the school system is a waste of money if parents are solely responsible for education.


27 posted on 11/22/2016 9:58:09 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Libloather

It’s not a right.


28 posted on 11/22/2016 10:02:17 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
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To: lacrew

“The courts have usurped legislative authority, and it is accepted as normal.”

Then remove the judges! Don’t they have to stand for reaffirmation in Kansas?


29 posted on 11/22/2016 10:05:24 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Libloather

Could it be that as the city decayed the infrastructure also decayed?

Detroit has destroyed itself. It and the surrounding area have become a vast wasteland.

When a population demonizes education as “Too White”, then the result is illiteracy, and continued poverty. Just what the Democrats want in their plantation population.


30 posted on 11/22/2016 10:06:31 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: marktwain

School choice is turning good schools into failing schools. That’s just a fact in many districts. School choice sounds good, but in reality, it’s pretty much just the kids who get kicked out of their home district that enroll in school of choice districts. Ask any teacher or school secretary in a SOC district.


31 posted on 11/22/2016 10:08:08 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very well put. Pubic ed’s future is going to become very interesting when rationality and reason are (finally!) applied.


32 posted on 11/22/2016 10:08:12 AM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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To: Yulee

Democrats , unions and unfaithful (to other Americans) car buyers and exec’s destroyed Detroit. Same for Pontiac, Flint and Saginaw.


33 posted on 11/22/2016 10:11:45 AM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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To: vette6387

Yep. I voted not to retain...but most didn’t.


34 posted on 11/22/2016 10:16:40 AM PST by lacrew
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To: House Atreides

In basketball, coaches cannot coach height.

In education, teachers cannot teach IQ.

Uh OH! You saying you gotta be born smart? AND the students up there were not ‘born that way?’ /sarc


35 posted on 11/22/2016 10:22:50 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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Why does the media go on and on and on about the angry uneducated white vote but never mentions the high levels of illiteracy of certain democrat groups that vote nearly 100% dem?


36 posted on 11/22/2016 10:31:06 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Bryanw92

“if parents are solely responsible for education”

They’re not solely responsible, but they are the foundation of education. If the foundation is cracked, it’s going to be near impossible to build any sound structure on top of it.


37 posted on 11/22/2016 10:41:10 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: vette6387
Then remove the judges! Don’t they have to stand for reaffirmation in Kansas?

They will just go to a federal judge.

38 posted on 11/22/2016 10:44:10 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Boogieman

>>They’re not solely responsible, but they are the foundation of education. If the foundation is cracked, it’s going to be near impossible to build any sound structure on top of it.

I’m not going to disagree with you about the Progressive destruction of the family. But when families worked, we started school at age 6. Now the kids get handed to Big Education at 3 or 4 and Big Ed takes on the job of building that foundation. They suck at it and they continue to suck at it for the next 16 years of a child’s life. They are so busy creating young pliant Marxists that they don’t have time to teach reading. Back in the old days when an illiterate could still find work, teachers used to teach the children of illiterates how to read. They taught slaves to read. They taught Native American hunter-gatherers to read. Teachers used to be a critical part of a civilized human’s development. Now they are just an American’s first Government Overlord.


39 posted on 11/22/2016 10:54:09 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: vette6387

Then remove the judges! Don’t they have to stand for reaffirmation in Kansas?<<<

Many of us tried, and were unsuccessful. Their reaffirmations were on this year’s ballot on Nov. 8


40 posted on 11/22/2016 11:15:29 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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