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New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
Forbes ^ | 11-27-16 | Brian Blase,

Posted on 11/30/2016 8:08:49 AM PST by Mikey_1962

A new study by Jonathan Gruber, one of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) chief economic architects, suggests that roughly two-thirds of new Medicaid enrollees in 2014 were eligible for the program under previous state eligibility criteria—meaning that they were not made eligible by the ACA. If accurate, then a much smaller share of new Medicaid enrollees were made eligible for the program by the ACA than Washington experts commonly believe. For example, the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) most recent projection is that only one of six new Medicaid enrollees were eligible for the program before the ACA. Gruber’s results, combined with much higher than expected Medicaid enrollment and spending over the past three years, has profound implications for the distribution of program costs and the effect of a repeal of the ACA. First, Gruber’s results suggest that people who were already eligible for Medicaid before the ACA have been inappropriately categorized as though they are newly eligible because of the ACA. This is important because the ACA requires the federal government to pay a lot more of the cost of covering newly eligible enrollees than it does for those eligible for Medicaid before the ACA. Thus, it appears the federal government is paying a lot more than it should be and that states are paying far less. Second, Gruber’s results suggest that if the ACA were repealed, a lot fewer people would likely lose coverage than previously thought.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; aca; gruber; medicaidexpansion; obamacare; repealandreplace; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneycarelives
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Two-thirds of new Medicaid enrollees in 2014 were eligible for the program under previous state eligibility criteria—meaning that they were not made eligible by the ACA - Jonathan Gruber.
1 posted on 11/30/2016 8:08:49 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: Mikey_1962

The whole thing was an outright scam.


2 posted on 11/30/2016 8:12:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Mikey_1962

This man should be prosecuted for violation of the Federal Acquisition Regulations as well as a host of other self-serving deeds.

He should be come the subject of his own FBI investigation, IMO.


3 posted on 11/30/2016 8:13:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Mikey_1962

Duh!!!


4 posted on 11/30/2016 8:15:05 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Mikey_1962

If Mr. Trump makes RomneyCARE SOS,
then Gruber should run the Treasury.


5 posted on 11/30/2016 8:19:01 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Mikey_1962

This was the MIT dufus who kept on saying how great Obamacare would be and how people are stupid enough to believe anything they’re told. Now it sounds like he’s trying to save a bogus reputation.

I wouldn’t believe anything this person has to say. I’m not that stupid.


6 posted on 11/30/2016 8:19:05 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Diogenesis

Romney is the swamp. forgot about romneycare. He was 100% suckered by ted Kennedy into that disaster.


7 posted on 11/30/2016 8:20:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mikey_1962


8 posted on 11/30/2016 8:22:48 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: All

Gruber gives Obama some reading material on healthcare.

9 posted on 11/30/2016 8:23:23 AM PST by Liz
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To: Iron Munro

What’s a gruber?


10 posted on 11/30/2016 8:23:24 AM PST by refermech
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To: ClearCase_guy

He authors it; brags how easily people are duped then does a study and “surprise” it was misused!

What a putz


11 posted on 11/30/2016 8:26:47 AM PST by Mikey_1962 ("Good people do not need laws, bad people will find a way around them" Plato)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Trump has a big job---to find all of the graft and corruption in Obamacare.

The Democrats nationalized 1/6th of the US Economy into a Democrat Cash Cow. E-v-e-r-y conniving Democrat voted for O/Care---parroting Obama's Big Lie "If you like your plan, keep your plan.

ALL the untraceable O/Care money from enrollments, fines, penalties, taxes, fees, and asset confiscation (from Medicaid users) goes to your "reliable, trustworthy government."

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Some observers note that the Democrat-controlled Senate passed Obamacare "after a series of unsavory transactions that purchased the aye votes of several shrewdly extortionate Democrats"....with a huge pile of money still unaccounted for.

The most unsavory was Landrieu's $4.3 billion "Louisisana Purchase."

THE PAPER TRAIL IS HUGE Sen Landrieu (recently lost her reelection bid) sold her aye vote in what Forbes Magazine dubbed "The 'Louisiana Purchase" that included a massive $4.3 Billion to Landrieu

FORBES REPORTED the Democrats’ nailed Landrieu’s support for Obamacare w/ a greenback bribe. Landrieu, critics believe, pledged her vote in exchange for some $200 million more additional federal funds for Louisiana. Except that, due to a drafting error, the law ended up giving Louisiana $4.3 billion: more than twenty times the assigned amount. MORE HERE http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

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BACKSTORY In the fall of 2009, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was trying to get the necessary 60 Dimocrat votes to pass the Affordable Care Act. He needed every Dim on board, which gave waffling senators a great deal of leverage. In Landrieu's case, she connivingly saw that selling her aye vote could get her maybe $200 million federal dollars. Obama complied. Reid chalked up another vote for Obamacare----not the measly $200 million but $4.3 billon was attached to the Obamacare bill earmarked for Landrieu.

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How $4.3 billion to Landrieu was calculatedly attached to the Obamacare bill, and how Obama and Reid failed to catcH and fix it, is yet another indictment of the Obamacare atrocity.

The $4.3 billion handoff to Landrieu should be investigated as an indication of how EVERY Democrat came to vote for Obamacare....and how tax dollars were laundered to get lock-stepping Democrats' votes.

12 posted on 11/30/2016 8:26:54 AM PST by Liz
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Obamacare" is a sitting president's blunder of Ceausescu-esque proportions. In Obama's feeble mind, the ACA was not about healthcare.

Far from it.

The conniving Obama calculated the ACA to consolidate Democrat power that was supposed to install a permanent Dumbocrat majority. So much for that ding-dong idea....b/c 30 lockstepping Dumbocrats who voted for it were ousted in the 2014 Democrat Demolition Derby. Several retired knowing they could not be reelected.

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WHERE IS THE MONEY? O/care also allocated some $6 billion tax dollars----spending money for Dumbocrats ----which has yet to be traced.

The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to states and to offshore banks is almost palpable.

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REFERENCE ACA SEC. 4002. PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND.

(a) PURPOSE. It is the purpose of this section of the ACA to establish a Prevention and Public Health Fund (referred to in this section as the ‘‘Fund’’), to be administered through the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Secretary, to provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs.

(b) FUNDING.—There are hereby authorized to be appropriated, and appropriated, to the Fund, out of any monies in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated—

(1) for fiscal year 2010, $500,000,000;
(2) for fiscal year 2011, $750,000,000;
(3) for fiscal year 2012, $1,000,000,000;
(4) for fiscal year 2013, $1,250,000,000;
(5) for fiscal year 2014, $1,500,000,000; and
(6) for fiscal year 2015, and each fiscal year thereafter, $2,000,000,000.

(c) USE OF FUND.—The Secretary shall transfer amounts in the Fund to accounts within the Department of Health and Human Services to increase funding, over the fiscal year 2008 level, for programs authorized by the Public Health Service Act, for prevention, wellness, and public health activities including prevention research and health screenings, such as the Community Transformation grant program, the Education and Outreach Campaign for Preventive Benefits, and immunization programs.

(d) TRANSFER AUTHORITY.—The Committee on Appropriations of the Senate and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of may provide for the transfer of funds in the Fund to eligible activities under this section, subject to subsection (c).

(read how insiders got even more $$billions above)

13 posted on 11/30/2016 8:27:48 AM PST by Liz
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To: Mikey_1962

The reality is that these people were paid for by hospitals and their insurance companies. But now they just send the bill to the federal government. Poor people don’t really sign up. They get signed up when they show up at the hospital. When they show up there again, they sign up one more time. They don’t care. They were on Medicaid, they were on state plans. They were just showing up at hospitals and not paying their bills. The same thing is happening now. Its just that the fed is paying.


14 posted on 11/30/2016 8:29:46 AM PST by poinq
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To: Mikey_1962

And Ohio just went bankrupt.


15 posted on 11/30/2016 8:30:38 AM PST by rwilson99 (How exactly would John 3:16 not apply to Mary?)
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To: refermech
End of the food tube, the elimination orfice.

Most prefer the more polite term "@$$hole" to the street slang of "gruber".

16 posted on 11/30/2016 8:32:09 AM PST by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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To: Eagles6

Ha! Why is this prick even consuming oxygen? It’s just not fair!


17 posted on 11/30/2016 8:34:06 AM PST by refermech
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To: Mikey_1962

Groober has squandered any believability due him because of his notorious lying. Why should *anyone* pay attention to this leftist idiot is beyond me.


18 posted on 11/30/2016 8:34:45 AM PST by bkopto
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To: Mikey_1962

And I really hat to say it. But that provision that takes young adults 18 to 25 get free healthcare on their parents plan is ridiculous. Those are not kids. Those are often working adults. Or adults that should be working. They could at least means test it. If you make more than $39K you have to get health insurance.


19 posted on 11/30/2016 8:39:06 AM PST by poinq
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To: Mikey_1962

20 posted on 11/30/2016 8:41:50 AM PST by PGR88
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