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Red light cameras and the “anti-poverty” argument: Disproportionately issued to low income drivers.
Hotair ^ | 12/05/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 12/05/2016 1:05:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Obviously racist micro-aggression by Government. Red Light Cameras must be part of the Republican Party's racist agenda.

“......“I am particularly concerned that too many of these tickets have been issued to people who can least afford to pay them, which is counterproductive to our efforts to reverse our city’s troubling rates of poverty,”.......”

I can't wait until the Cities are so addicted to the red-light camera money and so concerned about disproportionately harming people of color and the poor that they propose that red-light camera fines can only be levied on whites and those in the middle class or better. Yes, what I am sure this mayor feels is a need for race-based justice.

Heaven help us from the liberal wack jobs. (/sarcasm)

81 posted on 12/05/2016 3:34:57 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Lumper20
Agree. After speeding, intersection violations are the nest leading cause of accidents. This mayor is an idiot. What an idiot

There is ALWAYS going to be a leading cause of accidents. It does not matter how many laws are instituted.

82 posted on 12/05/2016 3:40:39 PM PST by Mark was here (We came We saw She died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I loathe red light cameras and photo radar. I’d love to see them eliminated nationwide under whatever pretext. They are nothing more than revenue generators. And the statistical evidence used to justify them has been massaged and cherry picked.


83 posted on 12/05/2016 3:42:03 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: meyer

Had a dumbass wetback rearend my Daughter on Paramount Blvd several years ago.
The dumbass jumped out of his van and started to threaten my Daughter; waving his arms, screetching in spanish, and pointing his finger at her. Dumb SOB didn’t know dad was one care behind him.
My daughter was slowing down to stop because the light was yellow, and the wetback sped up to make the light and ran right into her.
I got out of my truck and had a little discussion with that bastard; where’s your insurance card, oh don’t have one huh!
Lets see your license; this is expired you dipsh!t.
Lets see your registration; OH, this is a company car and you don’t have the registration, this just keeps getting better and better.
NOW GET THE F#CK OUT OF HERE BEFORE I CRUSH YOUR KIDNEY WITH A CROWBAR.
Fortunately my Daughter was driving one of my old trucks and there was just the wetbacks van paint to wipe off the heavy duty bumper, his company van was pretty smashed up on the front end.
He can explain it to his boss, I didn’t give a sh!t.
Never did hear back from his employer or any lawyers.
Goddamn greaser had my Daughter in tears, he’s lucky he drove away with all his body parts attached.


84 posted on 12/05/2016 3:43:13 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

Love me an alpha male that doesn’t let anyone mess with his loved ones. I’m impressed.


85 posted on 12/05/2016 3:57:48 PM PST by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: Persevero

I’ve seen that very thing happen here on Long Island, though not with police cars. I usually see it with ambulances. The drivers simply WILL NOT enter the intersection to clear the way because of the cameras aimed right at them.

Those cameras are menaces and should be removed. (Though this “disparate impact” reason is crap.)

Regards,


86 posted on 12/05/2016 4:01:27 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Mark was here

Well, intersections are the # 2 cause of accidents. Running red lights is a great way to kill and disable folks. Take a defensive driver course. You will see why intersections are so important.


87 posted on 12/05/2016 4:02:56 PM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: zeugma

Exactly! A two-second time where ALL lights are red will absolutely be safer.

But, zeugma...there’s no $$$$$$ in that, so we get these stupid, dangerous cameras instead.

Regards,


88 posted on 12/05/2016 4:05:22 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here in Phoenix the west side of town is by far the most impoverished with high crime and gang activity along with a healthy illegal alien population. You bet your ass there are more accidents than in the more well to do areas. It’s also the nation’s capitol IMHO for hit and run car-pedestrian injuries and fatalities. How many of these ignorant and probably illiterate drivers have insurance let alone a driver license? Yes, it’s bad choices, lack of discipline and lack of forward thinking that keeps the impoverished in the state they’re in. They have no one to blame but themselves.


89 posted on 12/05/2016 4:23:10 PM PST by GoldwaterCountry (Viva Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: 5th MEB

“YELLOW means slow down, caution, prepare to stop.”

Yes, of course.

I’ve driven a cab in this city for years now. Never got a red light ticket doing it. I know how to drive.

But if traffic is moving fast, and the guy behind you is eating your tail, and it turns yellow, but it’s a shortened yellow designed to increase revenue for the city. . .

well, don’t blame me. Seriously.

I guess you’d get rear - ended, instead?


90 posted on 12/05/2016 4:46:09 PM PST by Persevero (NUTS)
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To: SeekAndFind

Her problem isn’t that the majority of violators are poor, it’s that the majority of violators don’t pay their fines.


91 posted on 12/05/2016 5:04:31 PM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: rstrahan

And they aren’t even good at generating revenue for the city...the hometown of FR dumped them after 3 years:

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/06/632.asp


92 posted on 12/05/2016 5:10:08 PM PST by Drago
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To: SeekAndFind
The Insurance Institute says flipping the switch on the program will likely cost lives...

NEWS-FLASH / NEWS-FLASH: If the "Insurance Institute," is really concerned about lives, then campaign to outlaw the wheel. Just think, no Cars (how many deaths????), no Trains (how many deaths????), no Airplanes (how many deaths????), no Motorcycles, on and on.

"Insurance Institute," is only concerned about how much money $$$$$ it will lose. At the same time trying to shame us all to keep paying for their pawns (Red Light Company's.)

93 posted on 12/05/2016 11:02:08 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Lumper20

I get defensive driving, passing slow cars on a two lane roads so you don’t get hit by some jerk trying to pass several cars at once, and all that.

I’m talking about the point of diminishing returns for more and more laws. It should always be a requirement to stop at red lights.


94 posted on 12/06/2016 5:39:32 AM PST by Mark was here (We came We saw She died.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Re: 18

Except that’s not how she pronounces the word “racist”.


95 posted on 12/06/2016 5:42:23 AM PST by Fury
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To: Mark was here

I agree about limiting laws. Our state lawmakers and Congress need to take a course called Administrative Policy Formulation before running for office or voting. Whether it is a business, state, or country you only make policies that are essential. Whether I see an unnecessary stop light installed or unnecessary laws passed I always wonder -”Does the idiot or idiots who decided this have any idea what they are doing.” Look at our military that worked as designed from day one and now look at it with women and LGBT types. The left has trashed our military, our country, and much more. Common Core is setting kids up to fail. They learn zip about America. They are taught the Muslim prayer.


96 posted on 12/06/2016 6:18:56 AM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: Persevero

“If I don’t, I can’t renew my registration. I can’t get my driver’s license re-issued. And the fines and “interest” are very high.”

Wow! That IS bad! Here in Texas, if you refuse to pay, all they can do is report it to the credit bureaus as a bad debt, and you can always DISPUTE that! They usually just write it off.


97 posted on 12/06/2016 12:28:33 PM PST by 2harddrive
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