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U.S. to build $1.6B Idaho facility for warships' nuclear waste
Navy Times ^

Posted on 12/07/2016 7:58:43 AM PST by ameribbean expat

The facility will be built at the Energy Department's 890-square-mile site that includes the Idaho National Laboratory, considered the nation's primary lab for nuclear research.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: bhodoe; doe; idaho; nuclearwaste

1 posted on 12/07/2016 7:58:43 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: ameribbean expat

But we’ve always processed and kept or expended cores in Idaho. The Expended Core Facility is all that is left of the Naval Reactors Facility where we trained nuclear plant operators for decades.


2 posted on 12/07/2016 8:01:55 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

“kept or expended” should be “kept our expended”


3 posted on 12/07/2016 8:02:34 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Sounds like another boon-doggle. What port on what ocean borders the state of Idaho ?


4 posted on 12/07/2016 8:05:20 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

A port is not in any way needed. A container sized package of spent nuclear fuel can be shipped anywhere, and this is already a site of nuclear research and storage.


5 posted on 12/07/2016 8:08:04 AM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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To: ameribbean expat

Why not put it in Nevada with all the other nuclear waste?


6 posted on 12/07/2016 8:08:30 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Enchante
Nuclear waste is easily disposed of.

Put it all under a humongous pot of water.

Almost all energy can be accomplished using boiling water, not the least of which is electricity.


Of COURSE that idea is impossibly simplistic ... but the idea is not impossible

7 posted on 12/07/2016 8:10:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Just dump them in the Arctic Ocean like The Soviet Union used to do.


8 posted on 12/07/2016 8:10:40 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Mainstream Media is another Man's Ministry of Propoganda.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Why not reopen Yucca Mountain in Nevada?

IIRC, the facility was almost finished when Dingy Harry got it shut down. He’ll be gone in January, and President Trump should look into finishing the project and using it!


9 posted on 12/07/2016 8:16:17 AM PST by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: alternatives?

The Yucca mountain facility was never finished. Rumors are it might be restarted after Trump takes office.


10 posted on 12/07/2016 8:20:04 AM PST by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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To: Clay Moore

Nevada is now blue. F-— them. Build it.


11 posted on 12/07/2016 8:33:36 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: knarf
Almost all energy can be accomplished using boiling water, not the least of which is electricity.

Isn't that how nuclear power plants generate electricity? The nuclear reaction provides the heat, and steam pressure turns the wheels on the generators. It's a nuclear steam engine.

12 posted on 12/07/2016 8:34:38 AM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: alternatives?

Yucca Mtn is not and probably never will be operational.


13 posted on 12/07/2016 8:36:49 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Elections have consequences." Barack Obama)
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To: Kickass Conservative

#8 I bet they still do : )
Usually still in the sub with all the sailors onboard....


14 posted on 12/07/2016 8:46:21 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: ameribbean expat

Sure, just dump all the nuclear garbage out west! That’s all we’re here for. Pillage all our natural resources, send in government thugs to steal our land when they want it, murder the ranchers and farmers who’ve worked hard to make a living on it, and dispose of your poisonous shit in our backyards. Bastards!


15 posted on 12/07/2016 9:00:11 AM PST by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: alternatives?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_National_Laboratory


16 posted on 12/07/2016 9:00:49 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Clay Moore

Since Nevada has went D the last 3 presidential elections, it sounds like a good idea.


17 posted on 12/07/2016 9:05:24 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Bryanw92

Beats me why it needs to cost 1.6 billion. As others say, nuclear waste volume is small, and we already have places to store nuclear waste.

Furthermore, I think the amount of nuclear waste for all nuclear ships is less that that for one nuclear power plant.


18 posted on 12/07/2016 9:34:21 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: ameribbean expat
The INL facility that does this work is 90 miles from my house. The technique that has been attempted is grinding the waste and encasing it in glass. That isn't the end of the process. The glass is shipped to New Mexico to be stored at the WIPP facility. That's where the scheme fails. WIPP is falling apart and expelling radioactive material into the atmosphere. The containers buried in the salt are blowing apart because a nitrate bearing "natural" material was mixed with the radioactive waste. Nearby the WIPP salt cavern is a high pressure source of WATER that will dissolve the salt and wash the radioactive meterial into the subsurface water.

The "glass" idea turns out to be a bad approach. At the atomic level, the hot radioactive particles act like a sandblaster. The glass is pulverized to a talcum powder granularity that is easy to wash out in the water compromised salt caverns.

The WIPP compromise has resulted in a cessation of transport of waste material to WIPP. It is now being stacked up above ground in Idaho where the glass is breaking down. We don't need more trasnported into Idaho because none of it is going back out after transport.

19 posted on 12/07/2016 9:47:31 AM PST by Myrddin
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