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DONALD CONKEY: Electoral College versus popular vote
The Cherokee Tribune and Ledger-News ^ | December 14, 2016 | Donald Conkey

Posted on 12/15/2016 7:45:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Americans should remember that the United States is not a democracy...

How can they 'remember' what they haven't been taught?

21 posted on 12/16/2016 4:34:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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... this is the most important part, there are 50 popular votes in play because there are 50 states in play. Because of this, Donald Trump did win the popular vote as it relates to the constitutional requirements. It’s the difference between the Super Bowl and the World Series. The Super Bowl is a one-game winner take all event.

The World Series requires that a team win four games out of seven no matter the scores of the individual games. Consider the 1960 World Series. The Pittsburgh Pirates went up against the New York Yankees. The series was won by Pittsburgh with a walk-off home run by Bill Mazeroski in the ninth inning of the seventh game even though the Yankees scored more total runs.

The Yankees won three games with the following scores: 16–3, 10–0, and 12–0. The Pirates won four games with these scores: 6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9. In addition, the Yankees “outhit them 91–60, outbatted them .338 to .256, hit 10 home runs to Pittsburgh’s four (three of which came in Game 7), got two complete-game shutouts from Whitey Ford — and lost.” (Wikipedia)

The series total was 55 runs for the Yankees and 27 runs for the Pirates. In the final analysis, it didn’t matter that the Yankees scored more total runs. Danny Murtaugh, the Pirate’s manager, got it right when he said: “I looked in the rule book and it said the Series will be decided on games won, not on runs scored.”

 

 

In the morning papers before the final game “quoted Yankees stars Mantle and Roger Maris as saying the Yankees were still the better team, even if the Pirates somehow managed to win Game 7.” (ESPN) Sound familiar? even if they lost, they still won.

http://constitution.com/electoral-college-difference-super-bowl-world-series/

 


 

"Those who fail to learn from history..."

 

 

 

 

22 posted on 12/16/2016 4:36:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“The adoption of the 17th Amendment destroyed one of the Founders’ initial checks on an excessive federal government by destroying the states’ veto power over the federal government — by electing their U.S. senators with a popular vote.”

I don’t understand that. Could someone help me with an explanation?


23 posted on 12/16/2016 4:43:44 AM PST by cymbeline
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Senators were originally appointed by their respective States, not elected.


24 posted on 12/16/2016 4:44:46 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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“Senators were originally appointed by their respective States, not elected.”

I got that, but how does that “destroy one of the Founders’ initial checks on an excessive federal government by destroying the states’ veto power over the federal government”?


25 posted on 12/16/2016 7:50:23 AM PST by cymbeline
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Appointed Senators are not elected, they were appointed to represent the State’s interest only. They were not popularly elected and were not prone to the populist swings of opinion present in the House. The House originated Bills, the State appointed Senators had veto power over them.


26 posted on 12/16/2016 11:41:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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