Posted on 12/18/2016 11:27:48 AM PST by CorporateStepsister
We sat down across the table from each other and I saw the two pieces of paper: my college bills created by my father. Dad slid the first one across the table, calmly stating this would be the amount I’d owe if I went to College A. Then he slid the second paper across explaining and this is what I’d need to pay for College B. The first bill said $80,000. The second said $0.
Sounds like a no-brainer – but keep in mind I was a 17-year-old who fantasized about a very specific type of college experience. I immediately began to argue about the injustice of my parents refusing to pay for my college education in full, especially when everyone else (that being my fellow entitled expatriate children) got to go to college on the Bank of Mom and Dad.
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Why does everybody have to go to college? Because high schools are failing to educate their charges. Look at the number of remedial courses given to incoming freshmen. I have a number of highly successful and intelligent friends who never went to college. But then they graduated in the early 1960’s.
This is a personal decision made by parents. There is no general rule which should h
Guide every family
College has become, to a great extent, a money-making racket, with the middle class - once again - footing most of the bill. You’re either paying via tax dollars or by the inflated tuition that allows someone else’s kid to go for free.
There are way too many people in college, people who don’t belong there. Someone with an IQ of 90 studying gender studies is a waste of time and money and will not lead to a productive job.
It would be interesting to see a study done of various majors and what people with those degrees are doing 5,10, 20 years after graduation. Are they working in their field or a related field? Are they working at all?
Oh...just like the hospitals.
Children are being taught in school that their parents owe them a college education. Some are even being told that their parents are LEGALLY required to pay for their college. Then they confront their parents with this newly acquired information.
Yes, they should have to pay-the real issue to me isn’t whether the parents or the student pays, but that the student gets a job and works-possibly for the 1st time in his/her life-if someone has never held a job, all the degrees they can afford will not make them a person able to hold a job and be responsible for themselves.
My husband worked to pay for college, too-but in the early 70’s there were more students who worked-those who did not were from well-off families-not working class ones like ours. Not everyone needs to go to college, either-my husband and I both preferred to do blue collar work, like we did before we had a degree-I returned to blue collar work in 2003, and I’m very happy wasting that education that I paid for...
I paid for college by working as a cocktail waitress-I’d had after school and summer jobs when I was in HS, but having to pay my tuition definitely taught me adult responsibility-so I made my cub do it, too-no regrets...
I really think that students not paying for at least part of their higher education is a big part of the reason we have all these melting snowflakes now that can’t keep a job more than a couple of months...
The government has no Constitutional business granting money to students for scholarships or loans. A private entity can Constitutionally give scholarships and loans for any reason at all.
In my own family ...approximately 75% of the women who attained Bachelor degrees are working clerk jobs or they've decided to be stay at home Moms. The working grads are making way less money than the males who chose either a vocational or military route to achieve their financial goals.
Had I apprenticed instead of going to college I rather imagine I would be a much more prosperous now than I am.
Pudlo’s economic law on costs: in any economic system, costs will rise with the willingness of people to pour money into the system.
and when government gets involved, it quickly prices people out of the market.
if you want to expand the system, hype it to the people and make them crave it at any cost.
works with transportation, health are, education and every other economic system.
Gee, Other than the rare ‘Dougie Howser’ types, I thought ‘children’ didn’t go to college.
But then given how emotionally childish these supposed ‘young adult’ snowflakes have become, I guess the term is applicable afterall.
It used to be, how you financed your college education was a factor in hiring decisions. A person who financed more of their education had an advantage over someone who had their education paid for via loans or from the “Bank of Mom and Dad.”
Don't take their Kodachrome away.
YES!
For some reason people who can go to war, be put to death or in prison for life enter into a contract, vote, get married, sit on a jury that renders a death penalty, buy a house, car, boat, or vacation time share somehow can not figure out how to pay for college or health insurance.
They are adults at 18. It is time we stop coddling the ‘leastest’ generation. It is time for the special snowflakes to grow the Hell up.
My parents helped a little bit, largely free room and board for living at home my sophomore year, also paid my car insurance for that year, though I still had to work the entire time. However, the situation at home was extremely bad so that perk didn’t last. I had to get an apartment. Went to the local state college.
I worked full time Junior/Senior years and graduated in 1975 with about $3000 in debt. Not a petty sum at that time, but nothing compared to now.
Biggest negative about the debt was I wanted to get a nice touring bike and bum around the country for a year or two before settling down. Couldn’t afford to do that. I still have a tinge of disappointment about that. OTOH my father always bragged on me working my way through and paying off my debt. I never stuck anyone for a dime.
Putting yourself through was doable in those days, I don’t see that as the case now.
Our daughter worked and garnered scholarships (home schooled kids pay off!) Over the course of 4 years (graduated in 2004) I seriously doubt we went out of pocket even $5k tops. Most of that was offered on our part. She did her sophomore year as an exchange student in Korea, so we chipped in a couple of grand on that, but she still paid for most of it with grants and saved money.
“To make up for “All the CRAP (they) learned in high skool”
Yea.. My dad used to say “If it doesn’t cost anything, it isn’t worth anything”.
I went to junior college first. Then state uni. Paid almost all of it. I worked part time in jc...worked full time in summers...no frills at all..borrowed 2 grand from fed program...paid back in full..had to live in a chauffuers sitting room and do gardening for rent. Had enough for senior year to live off campus..paid for grad school by working 28 hours a week and bank loans....all paid off. School cost escalations due toregulations and guarenteed payoff by state and feds
Many many courses are not relevant and could be taught privately or in jc or by otjt..(on the job training)...so school could be cheaper
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It is government loans and grants that caused college costs to become unaffordable for the ordinary working class,just as government has “helped” with housing and medical care.
I was about the same. Community college, state university. Lived cheap and worked.
My daughter is finishing her bachelors all online. I think it’s 3k a semester
Son is at a small private engineering school. No frills and good academics. No nonsense classes.
We’ve lent him some money, plus a couple loans and scholarships. He starts a well paid internship tomorrow that should run him through graduation.
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