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Where Have All the Christmas Decorations Gone? A Meditation on Joyless Secularism
Townhall.com ^ | December 20, 2016 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/20/2016 8:05:10 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Sans-Culotte
Where we live in Arizona, same amount of decorations, many more American flags.

You gotta get out of the PR of Kalifornia to see the rest of the country.

21 posted on 12/20/2016 8:20:39 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Kaslin

As many, or more, than ever here, in Godless, Secular Sonoma County.

I think the author is either out of ideas or caught in a time warp.


22 posted on 12/20/2016 8:20:44 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: AppyPappy

The purpose is to bring joy to others and remind them of the season.


That’s the thing. I think “the Season” is every day of my life.

Of course, the simple fact that nobody can see my house makes it a very easy choice these days.


23 posted on 12/20/2016 8:21:09 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: SamAdams76

In our area there are more decorations than in any year since Obama took office. Seems people are very pleased that Trump is in office.


24 posted on 12/20/2016 8:21:43 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Well, bah-humbug to you, too.


25 posted on 12/20/2016 8:22:10 AM PST by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: Kaslin

Drab and no color, reminds me of some of Hillary’s pantsuits.
I love the colors of Christmas.


26 posted on 12/20/2016 8:22:19 AM PST by just me (God bless President Truump and the USA)
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Church and State separation use of language history:

Jefferson was echoing the language of the founder of the first Baptist church in America, Roger Williams who had written in 1644 of “hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world.”Article Six of the United States Constitution also specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Jefferson’s metaphor of a wall of separation has been cited repeatedly by the U.S. Supreme Court. In Reynolds v. United States (1879) the Court wrote that Jefferson’s comments “may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment.” In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), Justice Hugo Black wrote: “In the words of Thomas Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state.

However, the Court has not always interpreted the constitutional principle as absolute, and the proper extent of separation between government and religion in the U.S. remains an ongoing subject of impassioned debate.


27 posted on 12/20/2016 8:22:35 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: Mercat
I cannot speak for Boston, Brooklyn, or Los Angeles. I can safely say that there are plenty of Christmas decorations in the residential areas of suburban Dallas. Protestant and Catholic churches are appropriately decorated and hold Christmas Eve services or Midnight Mass.
28 posted on 12/20/2016 8:22:48 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: babble-on
That’s kind of a weird article. If you move to Los Angeles, don’t expect everything to be just as it was in south Brooklyn.

I agree this is a kind of worthless rant. I live not to far from Dennis and sure its not like in a city but where we live on the edge of L.A and Ventura counties its all the suburbs and some streets are crazy off the hook. Some of these communities the wealthier ones spend an ordainment amount of time and money and people drive to see it. Like most everything in the LA bubble a car is required and traffic will be encountered.

I think Dennis still lives in Hidden Hills and to be fair that place is frickin straight out of Desperate House wives nutty. I hope he has moved.

29 posted on 12/20/2016 8:22:58 AM PST by datricker (President Elect Trump MAGA baby MAGA yeah! Free Julian!)
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To: SamAdams76

I live in a college town. We put up white lights all over town but they stay up until Spring. It adds a little festiveness to a dreary cold winter.


30 posted on 12/20/2016 8:24:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Kaslin

This year in western NY (Trump Country), there have been more Christmas displays than I have seen in many years. Elaborate ones. Also, I have seen a number of HUGE Trump signs, still up in support after the election. It is like everyone is celebrating a new world.


31 posted on 12/20/2016 8:25:48 AM PST by Bookwoman (...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: Mr. Douglas
Christmas lights just seem like a heck of a lot of work for no real purpose.

It was never work for me. I always loved the time of year when I would tote those boxes out of storage and start unraveling and testing all those strings of lights to hang. I love hanging strings of Christmas lights. The colder outside, the better. I blast Christmas music from my garage stereo and keep some cold turkey and cold beers in the refrigerator for refreshment. Usually I do this the day after Thanksgiving, when all the womenfolk are out shopping for the day. They like coming home to all the lights.

Clark Griswold is my hero by the way as I'm a lot like that in real life. Even my kids say that they are reminded of me whenever they see him in a Vacation movie.

32 posted on 12/20/2016 8:28:25 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: AppyPappy

I would love to put up lights, but climbing up on a ladder isn’t feasible anymore. I wish there were kids in the neighborhood that would put them up for a few bucks. I know there are companies that will put them up and take them down for you but they are expensive


33 posted on 12/20/2016 8:28:30 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Mr. Douglas

Mr. Douglas, I agree, although I do celebrate because my family does. The few I’ve spent alone, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed. I also celebrate Jesus all year and am very grateful for what his coming has meant to me personally, and to humanity as a whole. But I dread December every year and just wince through the whole month. I also get much poorer! Maybe I’m just at that age (bah humbug sixties).


34 posted on 12/20/2016 8:28:34 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: workerbee

Well, bah-humbug to you, too.


Yeah. My wife and I have a very close marriage and love each other like crazy, but I love fish and she can’t eat it - and I hate Christmas and she is practically Mrs. Claus. The good news is that those are our only two incompatibilities.

My compromise is that we only watch Christmas movies from Thanksgiving through the end of the year (and that’s a lot since we don’t have TV), and she decorates the house, and she cooks me fish sometimes.

Christmas to me is mall traffic (which I no longer do) credit card debt (which we no longer do) and cancer causing sweets (which I avoid as much as humanly possible). My southern gospel band wanted me to play Christmas and New Years with them. I said no can do, though I am singing in the Christmas choir tomorrow.

I think Christmas season is just too darned divisive these days. I prefer to celebrate it every day.


35 posted on 12/20/2016 8:30:19 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: MarMema

I’m guessing you were from secular western WA. Here in eastern WA lots of Christmas decorations and “Merry Christmas” is heard frequently.


36 posted on 12/20/2016 8:33:40 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Kaslin

My daughter and I think there are more decorations this year in San Jose, California. The Willow Glenn part of town has always been festive, but seems much much more this year.

I love the lights!


37 posted on 12/20/2016 8:36:21 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: pfflier
Where we live in Arizona, same amount of decorations, many more American flags.

On the street where i live (just outside Houston, TX) the Boy Scouts do a deal in which for $25 a year, they put an American flag in front of your house on all Flag Holidays. I think those of us who pay that fee are the most conservative people in the neighborhood and we are the ones with at least some sort of Christmas lights on display.

38 posted on 12/20/2016 8:36:22 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Kaslin

Where we live in SE Virginia (Gloucester County) the majority of homes near us have some lighting displayed. It ranges from the traditional single candle-style light in each window to full-scale yard displays. And of course, in Newport News Park is the Christmas drive-through. The displays are breathtaking. So... no gray secularism taking over here.


39 posted on 12/20/2016 8:37:32 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: freepertoo

I think that is part of it (I’m 63). But I think our culture is tiring of it as well.

You and I attack it the same way.

However, you brought up something that I forgot about. My negativity is not entirely benign. The “much poorer” part hits it. Back when I was about 30, I started seeing the whole thing as a scam to get us to buy a bunch of stuff for each other that we don’t really want or need. I decided to refuse to play. I absolutely HATE being manipulated. And hate it more when I participate anyway due to peer pressure.

I forgot about that. I LITERALLY see the whole US Christmas thing as the equivalent of the money changers, who’s tables Jesus overturned.


40 posted on 12/20/2016 8:39:13 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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