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New Zealand meeting calls into question White House narrative on role in UN vote
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/24/2016 | Michael Wilner

Posted on 12/25/2016 6:18:39 AM PST by ducttape45

The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself.

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration insists it was disciplined in its silence over how it would ultimately vote on resolutions related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that ultimately reached the UN Security Council, where it holds veto power.

Hours before such a vote was set to take place– on a resolution condemning Israel's settlement activity– one senior administration official told The Jerusalem Post that the president's team "was not involved in formulating the resolution, nor have we promoted it."

"We have not communicated to any UN Security Council members how the United States would vote if the resolution comes before the UN Security Council," the official said.

But the Israeli government has publicly accused the Obama administration of "colluding" with its drafters to ensure that the right resolution with just the right language came forward for a vote. The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself, which took place on Friday afternoon. The US abstained, allowing the resolution to pass.

The Israeli government provided no clear evidence to back its claim that the Obama administration worked to promote the effort. But one public engagement by Secretary of State John Kerry last month may offer some clues as to how Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government reached its conclusion. (Israel, Palestinian ambassadors to UN give speeches before vote on settlement resolution)

Kerry visited New Zealand on November 13, shortly after the US presidential election, and took part in "deep" conversation over how its government– which holds a non-permanent seat on the Security Council until the end of this calendar year– could engage in a UN-related initiative on the Middle East peace process.

"It is a conversation we are engaged in deeply and we've spent some time talking to Secretary Kerry about where the US might go on this," New Zealand's foreign minister, Murray McCully, told local reporters after the meeting, according to the New Zealand Herald. "It is something that is still in play."

"I think there are some very important decisions that the Obama administration is going to have to make in its lame-duck period on this issue," he added.

Egypt drafted the resolution that ultimately condemned Israel's settlement enterprise as an illegal operation contrary to the pursuit of peace with the Palestinians. The resolution also condemned incitement to violence by the Palestinian authorities.

The Egyptians coordinated on the language with the Palestinian Authority, whose chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, met with Kerry at the State Department on December 12. Israeli officials believe it was at this meeting that Kerry first relayed the president's willingness to abstain.

The White House said on Friday that US President Barack Obama had not decided how to proceed until hours before the vote.

Last minute, however, the Egyptian government pulled its own draft– due to pressure from the Israeli government, according to Western diplomatic sources, and after President-elect Donald Trump called publicly and privately for the resolution to be scrapped.

The draft was then dusted off by New Zealand, which formally introduced the resolution for a vote.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Egypt; Israel; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 201611; 20161113; antarctica; backstabbers; collusion; donaldtrump; egypt; iran; israel; jerusalem; johnkerry; kerry; kerrytrip; letshavejerusalem; lurch; massachusetts; mohammedmorsi; newzealand; obama; southpole; trump; unitednations; waronterror
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To: Osage Orange
What say you?

I say take a hike.

41 posted on 12/25/2016 7:31:10 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: ducttape45

Absolutely true and I knew it as soon as I saw that the four sponsors receive little (Malaysia, Senegal) or no (New Zealand) foreign aid from the U.S. and one of them (Venezuela) is currently refusing it. I knew the synical cretin had set it up.

Three of those worthless countries can suck it but NZ needs to be made to pay. Bunch of racist, anti-semitic bastards.


42 posted on 12/25/2016 7:32:15 AM PST by keat
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To: Helicondelta; Ethan Clive Osgoode

Haha!


43 posted on 12/25/2016 7:32:56 AM PST by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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To: jjotto

Was referring to Valerie Jarrett.


44 posted on 12/25/2016 7:33:54 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I am a Jewish American zionist.I don’t think it’s antisemitism. Shamefully many Jews here take the same views as Obama. What it is is left wing , ignorant, pacifist, moonbat, naive philosophy. Despite years of history showing that appeasement and offers of peace to evil violent movements or nations NEVER bring peace, the deluded left still doesn’t get it. Specifically with Israel, the J street leftist Jews and the current administration have forgotten that Israel offered Ararat a two state solution which was turned down. Why? Because, as the left fails to acknowledge the Arabs want ONE state, Palestine, with Israel off the map. Israel will have to lI’ve with terrorism for eternity, while the west and many leftist Jews still support solutions that will not help. As far as the Muslims and their apologists are concerned, the only solution is the Final Solution


45 posted on 12/25/2016 7:34:45 AM PST by samkatz
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Pretty much what I thought you'd say.....when asked pointed questions.

Pretty much surprised you are still here........

46 posted on 12/25/2016 7:34:53 AM PST by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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To: keat
NZ needs to be made to pay. Bunch of racist, anti-semitic bastards.

See how cool it is to trash your fellow westerners? Let's drag them through the mud, call them racists, etc. Self-hate is good for us.

47 posted on 12/25/2016 7:36:55 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: PIF

We send no aid to NZ, so no coincidence they were the driving force. Not sure what Obama and Kerry might have given them except maybe a chance to take a shot at the kikes.


48 posted on 12/25/2016 7:38:39 AM PST by keat
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To: PIF

ALL foreign aid payments need to be examined by the Trump administration! It’s ridiculous to give so much money to countries that despise and don’t support the US.

The taxpayers’ dollars given to the UN and foreign countries could easily pay to build the wall and upgrade the infrastructure in the US. ....America First!


49 posted on 12/25/2016 7:39:25 AM PST by octex
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
You are making an analogy between a foreign country, and Christ.

Do you profess loyalty to Christ ?
50 posted on 12/25/2016 7:40:01 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Helicondelta

VJ is American through and through. Her parents were prominent Chicagoans. She comes from American Communists stock.

http://www.uchospitals.edu/news/publications/midway/bowman.html


51 posted on 12/25/2016 7:40:03 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; Admin Moderator

IBTZ.

Opus out now, on Chritmas Day, please.


52 posted on 12/25/2016 7:40:23 AM PST by keat
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
See how cool it is to trash your fellow westerners? Let's drag them through the mud, call them racists, etc. Self-hate is good for us.

Are you a supporter of an Aryan nation ?
53 posted on 12/25/2016 7:41:07 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

“Didn’t the obama admin give Israel something like 40 billion dollars?”

No. Congress did.

L


54 posted on 12/25/2016 7:41:26 AM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

-—Are fans of John Hagee.-—

You cannot be that clueless to think the whole group known as Christians are all John Hagee fans...

Maybe less than 10 % even know who he is...


55 posted on 12/25/2016 7:41:50 AM PST by Popman
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Didn't the obama admin give Israel something like 40 billion dollars?

Oh, yes, and Big Media assures us no other president has been as supportive of Israel.

Keep defending the Fraud!

P U K E
56 posted on 12/25/2016 7:43:36 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: samkatz
Israel will have to live with terrorism for eternity,

By implication this means that America is supposed to have this problem forever too. You can see why someone wouldn't be thrilled about such a proposition.

57 posted on 12/25/2016 7:45:03 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

There was no other poster who said this. You said it for the first time, in post number 12 on this thread.

FreeRepublic does not have a history of hosting anti-Semites. I don’t expect you to have a long future ahead of you here.


58 posted on 12/25/2016 7:45:31 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: ducttape45

Hopefully, President Trump will drop NZ from the visa waiver program. That is a privledge and based on their backing of the kenyan’s UN tantrum they are certainly not a friend of the US.


59 posted on 12/25/2016 7:48:14 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Piranha
There was no other poster who said this

post 8

[rbg81] "But that $$ is used to maintain the fig leaf of support for the sake of Jewish constituents."

60 posted on 12/25/2016 7:51:36 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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