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Cruz, DeSantis push for congressional term limits
The Hill ^ | January 3, 2017 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 01/03/2017 8:34:35 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: Noob1999

Simple, just eliminate the pensions and term limits will work out just fine. Also end the war chest advantage. When there is no monetary incentive for serving, the desire to stay will evaporate. I tend to think that new media will be the killing fields for career politicians. As the old media big campaign spending model is eviscerated as Trump has begun, and by only accepting $1.00 a year salary to serve, people will start to view things a lot differently.

Gone will be the twisted negative campaign adds that won’t fit into 140 characters and an instant response to anything like it will kill it before it gets out of the gate.


41 posted on 01/04/2017 3:26:32 AM PST by mazda77
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To: nathanbedford

Cruz does not speak fluent Spanish... -—— Oh, right, Ted is speaking German with a Cuban accent! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBu2x5eX-Jo

...facts as outlined in a trenchant reply (#8) by vette6387: “GOP Sens..... Trenchant? Her reply was copied verbatim from the above article I posted.

Post #8 copies the words back to me as a reply and you follow along recopying the exact words for a third time and label this ‘trenchant.’

Imposing term limits has repeatedly been a grandstanding line for climbing career politicians. It’s a very popular talking point to rile up the base. DeSantis, Rubio and Cruz will seek to capitalize upon this regardless of the outcome.

We’ll have to wait and see if they really mean it. On the record- Mitch McConnell telling reporters, “We have term limits — they’re called elections.”

Hopefully they will make it happen, but no would be surprised if Cruz would claim to ‘kill the bill in order to save it’ at a later date in his typical style of political doublespeak.


42 posted on 01/04/2017 5:30:03 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Bogie

NO !!

How about we repeal the 17th amendment first. Let the state legislatures elect the senate as they were supposed to.


43 posted on 01/04/2017 5:38:04 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: vette6387

“This bill is DOA-Senate Brahmins” all are looking forward to their state funerals.... “

Unfortunately, that may be correct. After all the funeral hoopla for “the lion in the Senate’ -Kennedy, these old congressman may envision more of the same pomp and circumstance at their own wakes.


44 posted on 01/04/2017 6:03:36 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Between that and the Democrat idea of “super delegates” and corrupt media, the people of America are getting it shoved down their their throats.


45 posted on 01/04/2017 6:12:11 AM PST by Bogie
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
You claimed that Cruise speaks fluent Spanish.

Rubio said he does not speak Spanish.

The fact remains, Cruise does not speak fluent Spanish.

The fact is you are and were well aware:

Cruz and DeSantis previously pledged in a Washington Post op-ed to introduce the measure this year.

Yet, knowing that, you persisted in saying that Cruise was "grandstanding."

Imposing term limits has repeatedly been a grandstanding line for climbing career politicians. It’s a very popular talking point to rile up the base.

The fact remains that term limits is a very legitimate conservative goal and has been for years. That is why it is perhaps the Cardinal proposed amendment being put forward by the Article V movement. Any politician who advances a worthy conservative goal, even if it does not succeed, often marginalizes Democrats, which is in itself a worthy goal.

To single out Cruz for "grandstanding" in the wake of the Trump campaign is simply boggling.


46 posted on 01/04/2017 6:31:37 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: vette6387; HarleyLady27; flat; unkus; mazda77; Kaslin; sheik yerbouty; Tilted Irish Kilt; WENDLE; ..

Almost all DC politicians and elsewhere have years and years of dirt, wanna bet? Let Sessions and his Justice Department dig, dig, dig. Or, run ads against the dirty ones just like the 2018 campaign started EARLY.

The RATs don’t realize they lost big and the American people repudiated them and their lies, corruption, and self-serving, power-hungry egos.

President Trump and his staff won’t be all that patient while Making America Great Again and the RATs and RINOs are standing in the road blocking progress.


47 posted on 01/04/2017 7:12:40 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I’m all in favor of it, but I doubt that the bill will make it, because most in the House and Senate know they’ll be out of a job if it does. I suspect that the bill’s sponsors know this perfectly well and are just doing this for show. Think of it as political virtue-signaling.


48 posted on 01/04/2017 7:15:05 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
McCain goes first

McCain is the best living argument for term limits. If even a conservative state like Arizona can't vote him out in the primaries thanks to the entrenched power of incumbency, then the only thing that can get rid of him is term limits. Otherwise, we'll be listening to McCain's ravings until he dies on the Senate floor at age 100 or thereabouts.

49 posted on 01/04/2017 7:17:43 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Liz; vette6387; HarleyLady27; flat; unkus; mazda77; Kaslin; sheik yerbouty; ...

“Almost all DC politicians and elsewhere have years and years of dirt, wanna bet? Let Sessions and his Justice Department dig, dig, dig.”

Trump could get close to 100% of everything he wants if he just exposed the corruption of some key “power brokers” The rest of these criminal hookers will fold like a cheap suit : )


50 posted on 01/04/2017 7:49:38 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Trump could get close to 100% of everything he wants if he just exposed the corruption of some key “power brokers” The rest of these criminal hookers will fold like a cheap suit : )”

Oh that would be wonderful! Kinda like ole Lyndon Johnson when he said “he had their peckers in his pocket!” Send each of them a dossier in a brown paper envelope.


51 posted on 01/04/2017 8:24:47 AM PST by vette6387
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To: nathanbedford

Ted speaks and understands a great deal of Spanish but does not have the mastery level of the Spanish language that would assist him in any political debate. He would have been a fool to debate Bush en Espanol. Jeb Bush speaks near flawless Spanish for a gringo, though he doesn’t quite roll his R’s.

As we all know, it’s not a requirement to speak the native tongue to be an ambassador to a foreign country. But knowledge of their language and culture would be a definite advantage. Ted Cruz is a brilliant scholar -after listening to a lifetime of his father’s Spanish and taking years of Spanish classes throughout his education, Ted could easily become a proficient Spanish speaker.

From the 6th debate-

“...Cruz returned fired, slamming Rubio for his record on the issue, adding pointedly that the Florida senator appeared on Univision and pledged in Spanish not to rescind President Obama’s executive actions on immigration. Rubio shot back, “I don’t know how he knows what I said on Univision because he doesn’t speak Spanish.”

The only real surprise was that Cruz’s reply came quick. And, it came out in Spanish.

“Marco, si quieres ... ahora el mismo, díselo ahora, en Espanol, si quieres.”

(That translates roughly to “Marco, if you want ... right now, tell them now, in Spanish, if you want.”)

Cruz’s response was an imperfect comment that you might say when flustered or when trying intentionally to sound tough. With his immediate retort, Cruz demonstrated that under tremendous pressure before millions of viewers, he does speak Spanish. Indeed, he is does.

Ted spoke Spanish boldly without hesitation. Cruz had the confidence to refute Marco, knowing that there was a strong chance that Marco could reply back to him in Spanish. Cruz was sure he could respond again intelligently to Marco en Espanol. If not, Ted would never have taken that risk. Cruz also stood the chance that Jeb could interject his Spanish into his scuff with Marco. That would have been a legitimate interjection once Cruz had introduced Spanish to a national debate.

[Marco Rubio] cut to his bottom line: “For a number of weeks,” he said, Cruz has “just been telling lies... He lies about all sorts of things.” ....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-debate-see-why-ted-cruz-started-debating-marco-rubio-in-spanish/

Cruz has declined to debate his past opponents in Spanish and his father has served as a Spanish campaign surrogate for him. Among Hispanics, the inability to speak proficient Spanish is sometimes viewed as a modern kind of alleged cultural failing. Rubio understood that bias and was signaling Hispanics. He knew this might sway a lot of Hispanic voters to him, that’s why Marco challenged Cruz.

Term limits would enable Trump to help ‘drain the swamp.’ A Rasmussen poll (2012) showed 75% want term limits; that likely holds today.

Donald Trump, nor any other politician has the exclusive rights to ‘grandstanding.’ Trump did not grandstand on term limits, he has everything to gain with it’s passage and his goals to MAGA.

OTOH, all the rest, can champion any number of issues for political gain and never see their bills to fruition.


52 posted on 01/04/2017 8:46:42 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The first thing that Sessions will do is fire all US attorneys and their staffs, Then replace with real lawyers.


53 posted on 01/04/2017 11:29:51 AM PST by WENDLE (I urge the appointment of TED CRUZ to the Scalia seat on SCOTUS.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

There would have to be a concomitant law to somehow restrict the amount of power lifer staff and bureaucracy worker bees have.


54 posted on 01/04/2017 11:34:42 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: vette6387

: )


55 posted on 01/05/2017 7:44:14 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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