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To: Engraved-on-His-hands; Lera; Red Badger; Red Wolf

“While these may be considered to be on equal footing with the written Torah among many Jews, they are not considered to be so among Christians.”

Speak for yourself, not all Christians because you’re decidedly among a minority.

Eretz Yisrael is beholden to Torah. Torah = The Law. The Law says you have a right to defend yourself against those who wish to destroy you. For example, if there’s trucks filled with chemical weapons headed to a known state sponsored terrorist group positioned on your border, The Law fully supports the decision to destroy those trucks.

The Law doesn’t prevent discussion with other nations about these actions, nor does The Law state you have to tell the world the reasons behind these actions.


135 posted on 01/13/2017 2:11:05 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Read Write Repeat
Thank you for your response. You said:

Speak for yourself, not all Christians because you’re decidedly among a minority.

Wow. That comment is...unusual.

Traditional orthodox Christianity accepts the Old Testament and New Testament as inspired by God. While Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox include extra books in their canon of Scripture, even they do not include the works of the Gemara and its comments on Jewish oral tradition (the Mishnah) as canonical. Which modern Christian groups represent this supposed majority of Christianity who do so? Is it the Baptists? Or the Methodists? Or the Presbyterians? Or the Lutherans? Or the Pentecostals? And which Talmud do they recognize as canonical? Is it the Babylonian Talmud or the Jerusalem Talmud? Perhaps there are a few smaller “Jews for Jesus” groups that do that. I just don't know. I haven't heard of any. I'm pretty sure that none of the larger Christian denominations do so.

I noticed that you didn't give book, chapter, and verse to prove your point. There's a reason for that, don't you know?

Once again, I'm not arguing about whether proactive or retroactive actions are right or wrong. That can actually be a complicated issue at times. Personally, I don't have a problem with Israel destroying enemy weapons—proactively or retroactively--if they have the opportunity. My primary issue is that I did not want people to be left with the impression that the original statement ("If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.") is recorded in the Bible. It is not.
144 posted on 01/13/2017 4:46:02 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2020!)
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To: Read Write Repeat; Engraved-on-His-hands; Lera; Red Badger; Red Wolf

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>> “ The Law. The Law says you have a right to defend yourself against those who wish to destroy you.” <<

No, not exactly so.

The Law put it in the hands of the High Priest to take the matter before YHVH.

Our last high priest, Yeshua, is now in heaven with his Father, and he gave us the authority to take all matters directly to the Father in his name.
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149 posted on 01/13/2017 5:35:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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