[Mr. M.J.B.]

Israel generally takes action after it is hit.

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Israel attacks just before they are about to be attacked or when they can't allow a danger threshold crossing.

The following law in the Torah (derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): Habah l'hargecha hashkem l'hargo -- "If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first." (This law applies equally to someone coming to kill someone else -- you're obligated to kill the murderer in order to save his intended victim.)

[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate the distinction/clarification.

In general Israel has been seen as taking military action after acts of terrorism. I know instances can be found of them being preemptive.

The reaction in Iraq is a good example.

I support both. I still think most people see Israel as being long-suffering and generally taking action only when it can’t avoid something any other way, or an act has taken place that can’t go unanswered.

The ultimate point is that Israel is not the open aggressor without cause, just to toss it’s weight around.

It takes measured actions specific to the need.

It’s one of the reasons I think Israel is clearly the nation to back.

I have never seen Israel attack Arabs out of the blue to instill terror.

Arabs do that to Israel all the time.

[DoughtyOne]

Correction:

The reactor in Iraq is a good example.

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

I’m not taking issue with Israel’s action, but I wanted to clarify something for those reading along. I’m not a Jewish expert, but the statement that you quoted (”If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.”) is not in the Torah. It is in the Talmud. (That makes a big difference to the Christian.) It is also not based upon the Talmud’s view of Deuteronomy 22:26. It is based upon a passage early in the 22nd chapter of Exodus. It (the statement from the Talmud) is not part of the Jewish Torah, neither is it part of the Christian Bible.

[Red Badger]

- "If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first." (This law applies equally to someone coming to kill someone else -- you're obligated to kill the murderer in order to save his intended victim.)

EARLY FORM OF "Do unto others." DOCTRINE........

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “The following law in the Torah (derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): Habah l’hargecha hashkem l’hargo — “If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.” <<

Nonsense!

I checked this in both the KJV, and the JPS Tanakh to be sure there was no conflict.

Neither text offers anything close to what you have posted.

Both speak of a man lying with an engaged virgin, and the subject is solely whether the man, or both should be stoned, depending on the conditions of their surroundings.

There is nothing there WRT someone coming to murder you.

That sounds like the adversary speaking through one of his Rabbis, not the word of YHVH.
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