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Obama's EPA moves to preserve gas mileage requirements(and ruin our cars)
Fox News Auto/AP ^ | January 13, 2017

Posted on 01/14/2017 7:33:06 AM PST by mtrott

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The Environmental Protection Agency moved Friday to cement strict fuel economy requirements that force the auto industry to make new cars and trucks significantly more efficient, a decision that will be difficult for the incoming Trump administration to undo.


41 posted on 01/14/2017 8:06:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: Gen.Blather
The EPA is subject to oversight from congress. Congress does NOT do oversight anymore and kill ridiculous regulations. Congress critters are lawyers and they don't "do" science. It is beneath them.

This is why a citizen legislature was so important. Anyone who lives in the real world knows 50 MPG is ridiculous. You can't legislate scientific breakthroughs and the engineering technology to go along with that.

42 posted on 01/14/2017 8:10:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mtrott

If there’s one thing we’ve learned from Obama and the Democrats, it is that you can do whatever you want to do.


43 posted on 01/14/2017 8:11:09 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: central_va

“Congress does NOT do oversight anymore and kill ridiculous regulations. “

I find myself clutching my gun and bible and praying that Trump’s pick to head the EPA will go through the place with a flamethrower. I try not to put too much into the thought as I would rather be pleased with a little progress than disheartened by not enough. Theglassishalffull, theglassishalffull...


44 posted on 01/14/2017 8:16:08 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: mtrott

Reduce the EPA’s budget to $0.00. Aw, heck with that...just eliminate the entire department. Better in the long run.


45 posted on 01/14/2017 8:16:20 AM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5, 2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: mtrott

“fuel economy requirements that force the auto industry to make new cars and trucks significantly more efficient”

Fuel economy and fuel efficiency are two different things.

IF they could design a 3-ton sedan driven by a V-10 internal combustion engine (gasoline) that gets 30 miles per gallon, that would be a very efficient vehicular drive train.

When they design cars for mere fuel economy, they’re just trying to raise the average MPG per vehicle, which usually requires an increase in lightweight materials, low-mass components and smaller overall vehicle dimensions, not to mention the move away from internal combustion engines that run on gasoline or Diesel fuel.


46 posted on 01/14/2017 8:17:53 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In reality they do.. by fiat. That’s what all these damn regulations are and it’s not just the EPA it’s pretty much every damn governmental entity.


47 posted on 01/14/2017 8:18:27 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising)
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To: PIF

Note also that there was a sudden HUGE increase in asthma rates that seems to coincide with that same change in gasoline formulation and additives.

Lead most certainly should have been removed, but whatever they are using now has negative effects as well.


48 posted on 01/14/2017 8:18:41 AM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: wardamneagle

They can have my vehicles when they pull my dead body out of one of them.


49 posted on 01/14/2017 8:19:10 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: BobL
Based on that, just call it ILLEGAL and require the EPA to revert back to its old standards.

Realistically, the EPA should revert to the standards that were in place before Bill Clinton became President. Everything they've done since then has been designed solely to justify their jobs.

50 posted on 01/14/2017 8:21:01 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Bruce Kurtz

Yes, after having a number of premature small engine deaths, I started using “true fuel”


51 posted on 01/14/2017 8:21:12 AM PST by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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To: Gen.Blather
The EPA did do a good job cleaning up air pollution. CO2 Is not a pollutant. Their job is done. Have a big party and decommission it. They need to go away. Other pollution problems, where air pollution was not, are local and can be mostly handled by the states.
52 posted on 01/14/2017 8:21:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mtrott

The purpose of all of this last minute crap is to giv the media Fake News when Trump changes it. Trump should have done responses in the can for when this happens.


53 posted on 01/14/2017 8:21:50 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: rigelkentaurus

“I certainly wish we could get rid of ethanol- what a horrible idea. Drops mileage by at least 3.5% as ethanol has about 1/3 less energy than gasoline.”

Agreed! There’s many good reasons to get rid of the whole mandate to add alcohol to gasoline.


54 posted on 01/14/2017 8:23:36 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: central_va

As Mr. Scott of the Enterprise so eloquently put it:

“I canna change the laws of physics!”


55 posted on 01/14/2017 8:24:02 AM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: mtrott

I’d like a sensible chemist or two explain the reality of corn laced engine killing ethanol.

I buy ethanol free as much as possible. My old stuff gets nothing but.


56 posted on 01/14/2017 8:24:27 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Gen.Blather

Hope that flamethrower doesn’t have an ethanol blend.

It’ll take more, cost more, and eat up the seals and gaskets too soon.


57 posted on 01/14/2017 8:25:51 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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“Even without the standards, industry analysts say automakers will have to make the efficient cars anyway to comply with strict mileage and pollution requirements in California, Europe and China.”

Yeah, and Trump/auto mfg. can tell CA to shove it up their a$$!


58 posted on 01/14/2017 8:29:57 AM PST by Beagle8U (Long live Yoga Pants!)
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To: Don W

Lead - over rated. I used to chew on the old lead lined toothpaste tubes back in the day and later made lots of lead soldiers. Still going and physically working people 1/2 my age ‘under the table’.

Heavy metals - ummmh good! Especially in one’s car engine.


59 posted on 01/14/2017 8:31:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mtrott

Projecting into the near future...

What EPA?


60 posted on 01/14/2017 8:33:49 AM PST by Eddie01 (Tagline Removed by Moderator)
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