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Trump and the American Divide
City Journal ^ | Winter 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/15/2017 11:18:00 PM PST by DeweyCA

Edited on 01/16/2017 12:39:48 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: DeweyCA

Thank you for this post.


21 posted on 01/16/2017 12:47:40 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: 60Gunner

So we should bring in a bunch of low-paid foreign H1B workers to man the government bureaucracy and the teaching positions at universities, and then fire the old liberal workers for “hate speech and harassment” when they complain about the hygiene, stilted English and misogynistic attitudes of their new co-workers who take prayer breaks every hour ?

After they have been forced to train their replacements, of course.


22 posted on 01/16/2017 12:50:20 AM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Posting to make sure I read later! Thanks for posting the link!


23 posted on 01/16/2017 12:53:40 AM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: DeweyCA

Great, even by his standards!!


24 posted on 01/16/2017 12:54:16 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: onyx

And sometimes I wonder why I worry (I even confess I nibble fingernails).

This looks like something God ushered in. We already know this is an imperfect world and, while concern for what to do is justified, fretting is not.

The conditions for keeping a blessing going are rather simple: glorify the Lord for it and in its usage. It’s not as though we had to figure out some complex theological or social puzzle here. And on top of that, God offers Himself to us as advisor if we pray, and that without finding fault. Yes, we’ve been playing the hard game. God never said we had to be locked into that forever, however.


25 posted on 01/16/2017 12:54:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DeweyCA
Rural vs urban living creates 2 separate worlds.

Politics wants to offer one set of rules to govern both.

Each way of life has different problems and solutions yet urbanites are obsessed with ramming their opinions down the throats of rural America.

That the resources of the rural areas are in the control of urban think is the best starting point in forming a line of defense for rural America.

Sick of urban rules and their obsessive modeling

26 posted on 01/16/2017 1:00:13 AM PST by jcon40
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To: DeweyCA

I think the Prof is trying to explain to liberals how the rest of America feels about them. I doubt even he knows fully how we really feel.

The fact is we have grown to hate their filthy rotten guts. It’s well past the point where we wouldn’t piss in their ear if their head was on fire.
Most would gladly set their head on fire after they beat the piss out of them!

If it were up to me we would cut off food shipments to the cities and starve the bastards to death. Let the ghetto dwellers rise up and eat the rich liberals.


27 posted on 01/16/2017 1:04:45 AM PST by Beagle8U (Long live Yoga Pants!)
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To: DeweyCA
"For some minorities, sincerity and directness might be preferable to sloganeering by wealthy white urban progressives, who often seem more worried about assuaging their own guilt than about genuinely understanding people of different colors."

Missed a sweet spot here. Should have gone forward with this for several grafs; including some fealty to the notion that the Constitution is not a suicide pact. To wit:

"Changes come more slowly to rural interior areas, given that the sea, the historical importer of strange people and weird ideas, is far away. Maritime Athens was liberal, democratic, and cosmopolitan; its antithesis, landlocked Sparta, was oligarchic, provincial, and tradition-bound. In the same way, rural upstate New York isn’t Manhattan, and Provo isn’t Portland. Rural people rarely meet—and tend not to wish to meet—the traders, foreigners, and importers who arrive at ports with their foreign money and exotic customs."

Again, this isn't even true - rural people relish their iPhones. Thusly, communications at the speed of light (or wifi) filled the screen with libtard finger-pointing - "strange people [with] weird ideas" - you can't get your email anymore online without going through a libtard gateway. We reached out and broke off that finger.

28 posted on 01/16/2017 1:10:05 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: Kellis91789

We could take this further.

What if a push was made for hospitals and doc-in-a-box urgent care practices to hire H1B doctors from other countries and pay them only $20K/yr ? That would sure bring down the cost of healthcare in this country. Just change policy at the AMA for licensing of doctors and nurses. Allow import of medical devices and supplies and drugs as well. There are so many sectors that have not *YET* felt the pain of globalization.

Doctors and nurses will scream that the public must be protected from shoddy work done by unqualified foreign labor, but ... who protected the public from shoddy work making products in China or shoddy customer-service call centers in India ? Nobody. Melamine in dog food and lead in children’s toys and cell phones that explode and TVs that die in a year and clothes that fall apart after a few washings.

Isn’t globalization great ? At least with all these workers on H1B visas, the experiment can be ended at any time and those workers sent home. The American manufacturing sector workers never got that grace.


29 posted on 01/16/2017 1:11:21 AM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: DeweyCA
Liberals hate that Donald Trump will be the face of their beloved big government.
30 posted on 01/16/2017 1:20:29 AM PST by 4Liberty (DEMOCRATS- Exporting Jobs, Importing Votes.)
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To: lewislynn
He'd like to make the reader now believe his neighbor was the farmer in Fresno.

A quick trip to Hanson's Wikipedia bio yielded this line:

He is also a fifth-generation farmer, growing almonds on a family farm in Selma, California where he resides, and is a commentator on social trends related to farming and agrarianism.

A side trip to MapQuest shows me Selma CA is about 10 miles or so down CA-99 from Fresno so the Fresno farmer is his neighbor.

And you thought you had such a clever "gotcha"...

31 posted on 01/16/2017 1:21:40 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: DeweyCA
Please do not apologize for the length of the piece. Writing of this quality leaves the reader wanting more and more.


32 posted on 01/16/2017 1:28:17 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: DeweyCA

I love VDH’s articles. He has an eloquent way of writing and getting his point across.


33 posted on 01/16/2017 2:17:02 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: DeweyCA

Wow! Awesome article!

There are so many great parts to this article, I’ll need to go back and reread it again just to soak it all in.


34 posted on 01/16/2017 2:37:33 AM PST by June2
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To: nathanbedford

Agreed!


35 posted on 01/16/2017 2:38:13 AM PST by June2
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To: nathanbedford
Please do not apologize for the length of the piece. Writing of this quality leaves the reader wanting more and more.

Word.

36 posted on 01/16/2017 2:52:30 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: DeweyCA
Good post. I enjoyed the many analogies to ancient Greece.

Maritime Athens was liberal, democratic, and cosmopolitan; its antithesis, landlocked Sparta, was oligarchic, provincial, and tradition-bound.

red-state Sparta vs. deep dark blue Athens.....


37 posted on 01/16/2017 3:31:08 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: lewislynn

He was a Never Trumper, which surprised and angered me. I’ll never forget the fact that he was working behind the scenes to elect Hillary, no matter how eloquent his prose.


38 posted on 01/16/2017 4:09:14 AM PST by Prince of Space (UNBORN LIVES MATTER!)
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To: DeweyCA
One really wonders did Victor David Hanson ever read Suzanne Collins' Hunger Games novel trilogy. Collins' description of the fictional capital of Panem might as well be describing a combination of New York City, Washington, DC, the Los Angeles Basin and the San Francisco Bay Area of 2017.
39 posted on 01/16/2017 5:35:15 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: 60Gunner

Figuring out how to make it hurt for them — with today’s technology, it should be simple provided we have the will to do it. reorganize all the universities and High school courses. Divide them into groups: one group requires only a lecturer, and that cam be done by a TV scree or computer. The second group needs hands on - sciences, shop classes, etc. Ironic that those that require hands on are usually the subjects of conservatives/realists.

Of course there is a third group - the arts. But again, with regard to painting, etc. some can be lectures via screen and the others are hands on - likewise acting, etc.

Our education system right now is a rip off for the taxpayers and for the students/parents.


40 posted on 01/16/2017 7:15:34 AM PST by Gumdrop
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