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Unsustainable model: Economist says 'balanced budget' adage doesn't work
The Montana Standard ^ | January 22, 2017 | Tom Lutey

Posted on 01/22/2017 7:13:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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'Twas liberalism and debt that helped out country prosper!

Or so this author and economist seem to say.

IMO, $20 trillion says we're in deep doo-doo.

1 posted on 01/22/2017 7:13:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Most US Gov’t spending comes nowhere close to looking like an Investment that will have a positive return.


2 posted on 01/22/2017 7:17:49 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The U.S. is worth more than it owes.

That's comforting. We're not bankrupt because we can always hold a liquidation sale.

3 posted on 01/22/2017 7:27:35 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A 20% import tariff balances the budget tomorrow.


4 posted on 01/22/2017 7:30:44 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The writer graduated from the Krugman school of third grade math.


5 posted on 01/22/2017 7:33:44 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We have managed to stay ahead of the costs of debt for two reasons.

1. There has been unprecedented increases in productivity for the last century.

2. The United States has been shown to be the most stable and safe country in the world. (You might argue about Europe, but Europe’s stability has been far less than the U.S. (WWII) and post WWII the stability has been made possible by the U.S. Military.

We cannot be certain that those two factors will continue for the next 20 years.


6 posted on 01/22/2017 7:37:52 PM PST by marktwain
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To: central_va; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Not so fast!

FairTax is the answer to our economic woes!


7 posted on 01/22/2017 7:38:25 PM PST by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Keynes was wrong.....except for his observation that in the long run we are all dead


8 posted on 01/22/2017 7:39:26 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This article is based on a false premise, a family can have a mortgage and *still* have a balanced budget, as long as they are making their mortgage payments (which is interest and part of the principle). So having a balanced budget amendment doesn’t prevent the US from borrowing in emergency situations. It just requires the government to make plans for paying back the loan when it does borrow.


9 posted on 01/22/2017 7:39:38 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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reign in spending


sigh...


10 posted on 01/22/2017 7:39:53 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Boomer Presidents:The Grifter, The Midget & The Traitor. Hoping Trump is The Boss)
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To: Taxman

A fair tax is good but it does nothing to promote domestic industry like a tariff would. Both the NRST and a tariff could replace the income tax.


11 posted on 01/22/2017 7:40:57 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Taxman

FairTax is the answer to our economic woes!
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I hope that’s the conclusion reached when hammering out his tax plan...


12 posted on 01/22/2017 7:41:14 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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Me too!


13 posted on 01/22/2017 7:41:39 PM PST by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: central_va

+1


14 posted on 01/22/2017 7:45:08 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
unless they reign in spending.

Our government has been reigning in spending for decades. The term the author means is rein in spending as in pulling the "brakes" on a horse.

Even the Keynesians don't argue for perpetual deficits. They want to run deficits during recessions and surpluses during the good times. We are far, far past that.

15 posted on 01/22/2017 7:45:33 PM PST by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: central_va

The FairTax (NRST) is a “border adjustable tax” in that imported goods WILL be taxed at the same rate as domestic goods.

In effect, the FairTax IS a tariff, much the same as a VAT is a tariff.

Our trading partners will impose their VAT on our goods and we’ll impose the FairTax on their goods, and there will be a level playing field in respect of imports and exports.

Under the FairTax our exported goods will be much more competitive in foreign markets because the FairTax ELIMINATES the “Tax Cost of Government” (as much as 25% of the retail cost of a US manufactured good) on ALL manufactured items; US goods will be exported TAX FREE!

Our foreign trading partners REBATE the VAT on exported goods which means they are essentially untaxed when they arrive in the USA.

FairTax fixes that problem!

Our trading partners impose their VAT on our imports, and we impose the FairTax on their stuff. EVEN STEVEN!


16 posted on 01/22/2017 7:51:52 PM PST by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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We need both. The marginal rates for corporations is going to be reduced to 15%(that's the plan I heard anyway) That is not enough as far as imports are concerned and would be way less than a tariff. The effective tax rate on imports should be around 20%. I do not see this plan doing that.

Besides there are are 14,000 tariffs on the books now. It is just that the duty schedule is such they bring in <1%. All President Trump needs to do is raise the duties on existing tariffs which he could do without congress.

17 posted on 01/22/2017 7:59:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My old hometown newspaper. As far left as the NYT.


18 posted on 01/22/2017 8:26:50 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Taxman

Wrong. Once the gummint starts handing out monthly prebate checks, that will be the beginning of a swift end to freedom.


19 posted on 01/22/2017 8:33:44 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Nifster
Keynes who had no brains.
FDR who had less brains than Keynes
Add up to the mess we are in
20 posted on 01/22/2017 8:42:10 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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