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Establishment Politicians Using ‘Carbon Tax’ to Foil Trump
American Thinker ^ | February 10, 2017 | Norman Rogers

Posted on 02/10/2017 2:00:27 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Nextrush

you mean their cronies at ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, don’t you?


21 posted on 02/10/2017 2:24:11 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Nifster

That is correct


22 posted on 02/10/2017 2:25:19 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin

How will the atmosphere improve when every man woman and child is dependent on fossil fuels for money?? What a kooky idea.


23 posted on 02/10/2017 2:27:13 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Kaslin

Dementia is a terrible way to end one’s lifetime. I feel sorry for those who are in need of care like Baker and Schultz.


24 posted on 02/10/2017 2:30:43 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Nifster
And how do they plan to get a bill?

Democrats and turncoat Repubbies?

There's probably enough of them who would band together to propose something with intent of hurting Trump in anyway they can.

Propose something even though it won't go anywhere, get the media to talk it up and attack Trump and conservatives for being against clean air.


25 posted on 02/10/2017 2:31:18 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Slyfox; All
Rush was talking about that yesterday

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3523231/posts

26 posted on 02/10/2017 2:31:36 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin
Am I missing something here?

The article says the proceeds from this carbon tax will be distributed among people who have a Social Security number. Huh?

Question 1: How is this tax calculated?

Question 2: How will giving the proceeds of the tax back to the public reduce any alleged global warming...oops, I'm sorry....climate change impact?

This sounds like a typical big government tax scheme. Collect taxes from the people, siphon some off for the elites and redistribute it back to the people who will be a little lighter in the wallet to show for it.

Where's the impact or benefit to the climate or the environment or the weather or the earth? There is none. This is just a way for the establishment to pick our pockets again.

This is a bigger scam than the climate change scam itself.

27 posted on 02/10/2017 2:39:26 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt
Rush was talking about that yesterday

GOP Establishment Royalty Calls for Worldwide Carbon Tax

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Addressing climate change is not dealing with it. Addressing climate change is not attacking it. Addressing climate change is not fixing it, solving it, or what have you. And why does it matter what economists think as the most straightforward way to address climate change? “And as part of this proposal, $300 billion of the tax collected would be redistributed to households in the form of checks, quarterly checks from the Social Security Administration.” So the poor, a family of four quantifying would see an average annual payout of $2,000 from this tax increase.

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28 posted on 02/10/2017 3:03:13 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin
Purportedly, this would provide a family of 4 with approximately $2000 per year.

$2,000.00 or $3,000.00 which ever number is correct, really means nothing because they do not even discuss how much more the product(s) will be sold for, that are created with the generation of the CO2, not carbon. So what that money amounts to is really just a reduction in the addition costs we will incur.

Wise men are not always smart men.

29 posted on 02/10/2017 3:16:24 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Kaslin

Wonder how the old whores got bribed?


30 posted on 02/10/2017 3:41:06 PM PST by DesertRhino (.)
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To: Major Matt Mason
I think they are trying to sucker Trump into going along with it.

That would be the equivalent of the G.H.W. Bush "Read My Lips - No New Taxes" fiasco.


31 posted on 02/10/2017 4:37:09 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Kaslin

When someone appears on Fox News or Fox Business News to argue for some new tax structure like a national sales tax, I mean Fox News, official organ of the GOPe and the people who hate Putin passionately as evidenced by O’Reilly’s ambush retort to President Donald Trump in the Super Bowl interview.

As for the other guys, they do the bidding of the DNC for the most part, that list you laid out.


32 posted on 02/10/2017 7:20:28 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Kaslin
As a matter of economic and administrative efficiency, a carbon tax is superficially superior to cap and trade and other intrusive regulatory schemes. Yet the advantage is likely to be mostly illusory because a carbon tax would also involve many subjective and politically charged assessment calculations that would install a new layer of federal regulation and oversight into every nook and cranny of economic life.

Moreover, the political plum on offer to the general public is guaranteed annual cash that would give rise to a great deal of fraud and to political agitation that the payment be increased for the poor and denied to the "the rich" based on a means test. Finally, there is reason to suspect that this scheme is intended for not just the US but for all of the world, with the UN as the overall administrator.

Instead of a carbon tax, why not look to advanced nuclear power and to geoengineering to reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide? Enviros categorically oppose both, which suggests both that they do not fear global warming as much as they claim and that they do not so much want solutions as more power for themselves based on a supposed environmental emergency.

33 posted on 02/10/2017 8:26:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale

This is a wealth redistribution scheme, pure and simple. Take money from big corporations that “pollute” and give it to poor people. Proves green is red.


34 posted on 02/11/2017 12:33:33 AM PST by Impy (Toni Preckwinkle for Ambassador to the Sun)
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To: Kaslin

Satan is in full-press mode and the attacks on Trump will keep escalating - pray for him and those he appoints.


35 posted on 02/11/2017 2:46:06 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Iron Munro

“Trump has veto power so they are just blowing CO2 wind through their Obamas.”

Allow me to make a minor correction.

Trump has veto power so they are just blowing methane gas through their Obamas.


36 posted on 02/11/2017 6:28:01 AM PST by LastDayz (Few men desire liberty, most men wish only for a just master. Sallust)
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To: LastDayz

I stand corrected.

Either way, what they are doing stinks.


37 posted on 02/11/2017 8:52:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Rockingham

Maybe their idea really has nothing to do with reducing emissions and is just a sneaky effort to compensate for the already spent social security fund rather than admit to people that the money they thought was being set aside for them as they earned it was whizzed away years ago..


38 posted on 06/20/2017 11:53:25 PM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa

Because it is held in federal government debt instead of debt or equity in ongoing businesses, the social security trust fund is nothing but an accounting gimmick, like moving fifty dollars from your right pocket to your left and then spending it. Leaving an IOU for fifty dollars in your right pocket from the left pocket does not mean that you get to spend fifty dollars a second time. The country’s best prospect for avoiding bankruptcy is more rapid economic growth of the American economy, for the dollar to keep its reserve status, and for the federal government to permit the development of and to monetize our vast natural resources.


39 posted on 06/22/2017 6:59:08 PM PDT by Rockingham
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