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Long-hidden Winston Churchill essay on aliens surfaces
foxnews.com ^ | James Rogers

Posted on 02/19/2017 4:12:06 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: OKSooner

Quix had a major issue with Catholicism and was quite pointed and controversial in his voluminous and very colorful criticism, which is why he was unfortunately invited to leave. I miss characters like that here, even though he could be nasty at times, and was always obsessive. Very entertaining, or at least I thought so. I recall an argument I had with him, about a UFO he was freaking out about at the time. I pointed out that it wasn’t a UFO, since it had NASA markings, regardless of whether he knew the type of craft or not. I’m sure there are many experimental craft that we don’t know about, but it wasn’t unidentified.


41 posted on 02/19/2017 8:19:24 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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42 posted on 02/19/2017 8:23:09 PM PST by Rastus
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To: plain talk

It’s more of how many suitable planets are there for intelligent life to exist in our galaxy for a sufficient time to come and see us.

The Milky Way galaxy has 100-400 billion stars, but the much higher density of stars as one approaches the center of the galaxy would be more disruptive of a star’s solar system not to mention a greater probability of a nearby supernova damaging the planet. And stars too far from the center or the arms are not likely to have a sufficient supply of heavier elements to have rocky planets. Only those stars of a size similar to that of our sun and in one of the arms, but not too close to the center, might have a planet orbiting its sun not so close for a moderate temperature that it’s tidally locked to its orbit around the star.

And then there is the need to have larger gas planets in the solar system suburbs to suck up loose asteroids. Of course having a moon of the right size at the right distance is also important. And then there are a slew of planet parameters that are fairly tight to allow for Earth-like conditions.


43 posted on 02/19/2017 9:28:07 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Ransomed
"Maybe the desire for exploration and communication is exceedingly rare."

Only if there is but one alien species out there and it's not curious. If there are several or many alien species, only one (besides us) has to be curious enough to explore the galaxy.

And if an intelligent life is not curious, it's questionable if it could be intelligent.

44 posted on 02/19/2017 9:37:19 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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“And if an intelligent life is not curious, it’s questionable if it could be intelligent.”

It’s questionable to us, sure. Very hard to imagine even. But we are just going by the one example we have to guide us: us. We have a hard time imagining it because it’s not what we would do. But it’s yet to be proven what anyone else would do or not do.

Another possibility is the berserker scenario, where if we are detected moving things and being loud, something comes and squashes us. So new intelligences could be common, but after they reach a certain stage inevitably they are detected by something older and more powerful and eradicated.

Freegards


45 posted on 02/19/2017 9:51:10 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

The theory of multi-verse is not that unbelievable and unless proofed and proven it remains a theory. As do all theories which remain unproven. People seem willing to overlook the proven aspect of theory vs fact.


46 posted on 02/20/2017 4:15:15 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Read the “Three Body Problem/Dark Forrest” trilogy. You will understand “where is everybody” better.


47 posted on 02/20/2017 4:55:28 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Carl Vehse
"we should have seen some evidence of their existence by now."

The universe is what, about 13 or 14 billion years old (+/- 50 million?). The earth, about 4-1/2 billion years? Man figured out how to fly just 114 years ago and is relatively VERY new to the game, first crudely reaching space a mere 56 years ago. Patience is a virtue. Besides, from what I've seen, there appears to be plenty of evidence that has been published or otherwise put out over the years. Ancient cave paintings depicting flying beings for example. But skepticism calls for first-hand proof. Everything else can be recreated with modern technology (photoshop, CGI, etc...) Seeing is believing.

But... just supposin' what if other intelligent life forms have time clocks with hands that move in the other direction? Or maybe their eyes face inward?...

48 posted on 02/20/2017 5:16:49 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: RoosterRedux

Churchill ETI essay bump for later....


49 posted on 02/20/2017 8:29:57 AM PST by indthkr
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Note: this topic is from 2/19/2017. Thanks RoosterRedux.
 
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50 posted on 02/01/2020 2:47:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Is it even possible? Yes, it is.
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51 posted on 02/01/2020 2:50:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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