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To: BroJoeK

“...all of science today is merely a rough model of reality as we can detect it...no alternative theory which remotely explains the physical evidence as well as evolution and all its related ideas.”

Yes, I disagree. We detect scientific reality through the scientific method, not the theory of evolution. I wish I knew like how many articles I have read that use the scientific method merely as a means to explain evolution.

Reminds me of what Arthur Koestler said about how scholars for centuries studied Aristotle as the fount of all knowledge instead of studying nature. As a result, there was no scientific advancement at all while they did that.

Now, no scientist, intending to unlock new mysteries, would think to carry a manual on evolution into his lab when he does research. I had a chemistry professor at the start of a course where he said he taught his class from the standpoint of evolution and if you did not like it, drop his class. That was all he ever said about evolution, because the study of chemistry does not involve the study of evolution.


52 posted on 02/28/2017 10:12:39 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

Osage: “...because the study of chemistry does not involve the study of evolution.”

Oh, but it certainly can, in natural history, the evolution of chemical compounds, especially organic compounds.
Indeed, the key fact here to remember is that virtually every branch of science, from A-astronomy to G-geology & P-physics to Z-zoology, touches on and helps confirm ideas related to evolution.

None of it today provides evidence for some confirmed alternative natural science theory.


54 posted on 02/28/2017 10:37:37 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: odawg
That was all he ever said about evolution, because the study of chemistry does not involve the study of evolution.

Some have gone so far as to speak of the evolution of natural law, which is in our experience fixed. I couldn't say if this is what your Chemistry Professor had in mind.

But I would ask in addition, with regard to particle physics, most prominently atomic physics and photons, but extending to the muon neutrino and other exotica, where does all this fit in a Biblical view? Did this whole "zoo" exist prior to Creation of the World? Is it to be understood that this was God's clay used to form the world? That hardly seems possible, since they are governed by their own very fixed and rigid laws.

I suppose "let there be light" would take care of photons, but that only intensifies the exegitical problem, I think, since the heaven and the earth have already been created.

Just to be honest, I wouldn't suppose that any of the "hard core" advocates have ever considered this issue ... so surprise me.

62 posted on 02/28/2017 11:18:37 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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