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I had not previously heard of the Kruger-Dunning Effect. But after reading this, it could as easily apply to Erdogan the Islamist's Turkey as to Obama's US.

Interesting concept and thought.

It ends on a bit of sarcasm. But you get the point.

1 posted on 03/04/2017 10:36:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Greatly illuminating


2 posted on 03/04/2017 10:46:57 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (There will come a time when those screaming Fascists are in fact the actual Facists. W Churchill)
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I love the Kruger-Dunning Effect. It fits Obama perfectly and many, many other Democrats as well.


4 posted on 03/04/2017 10:51:31 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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the entire western elite is suffering from the Dunning-Krueger effect. In recent years they have lurched from one disaster to another, all the while telling each other and everyone else how sophisticated and brilliant they are.

Consider - internet bubble, 911 security lapses, invasion and occupation of Iraq, housing bubble, 2008 financial bailouts, withdrawl from Iraq and rise of ISIS, overthrow of Ghadaffi, arming ISIS in Syria, European refugee crisis, Eurodebt crisis, overthrow of Ukraine gov’t, Brexit, Trump election .... and on and on.

Every time there is a big terrorist attack, it comes to light that the perpetrators were well known to authorities but they were unable to act effectively.

And while all that happened, the “experts” were blindsided by the USSR collapse, peso crisis, Asia debt crisis, 911, financial crisis, Arab Spring, Crimea, ...

There is also a larger crisis of competence where things that were easily done 50 years ago like repairing dams, announcing the Oscars and signing up people for a new gov’t program seem to be increasing difficult - even with all the new technology.


7 posted on 03/04/2017 11:18:31 PM PST by Reverend Wright (the snowflakes are having a meltdown !)
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To: Texas Fossil

In other words “dumbing down the masses” leads to thesnowflake syndrome.


12 posted on 03/05/2017 12:50:14 AM PST by zaxtres
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I've used Dunning-Kruger as a filter for years. It goes a long way toward explaining why you seldom see Leftists, or certain ethnic groups, in STEM disciplines. Couple it with the IQ Bell Curve, and the equation is solved...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

14 posted on 03/05/2017 4:17:01 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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KD didn't discover it, they just put their names on it. I have called it the “idiot - arrogance” syndrome for 50 years and I got it from my Grandpa who called it that for 50 years before that.
15 posted on 03/05/2017 4:26:18 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Watching Obama tap dance.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think I first heard of the Kruger-Dunning here on FR, must have been when the first paper was published, probably about late 1999.

I apply the findings in everything I do and with everybody I work with. Especially management types..... Think the pointy haired boss from Dilbert.


19 posted on 03/05/2017 4:34:42 AM PST by machman
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Turkey Ping


21 posted on 03/05/2017 6:01:47 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Or....stupid people don’t want to say they are stupid.


22 posted on 03/05/2017 10:51:14 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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