"Clapper is a proven liar. This is the guy that told Congress the NSA was not collecting information of any sort on millions of Americans (later determined that they were)."
Clapper did not lie.
NSA hires contractors and they collect the information.
Other intelligence services collect the information while NSA collects information on their citizens.
Then they swap as needed.
See-no “collection here!
(Welcome to the swamp!)
Granpa, when Trapper said that “No Sir” his body language screamed he was lying, but it also revealed that he was under stress. He looked frightened. What does the thug have on him?