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A Census That Divides and ‘Nudges’ (Trump should reject proposal)
WSJ ^ | March 12 2017 | Mike Gonzalez‏

Posted on 03/13/2017 11:13:47 AM PDT by Whenifhow

In its waning days the Obama administration proposed two new wrinkles for the 2020 census: creating a brand new pan-ethnic category for people of Middle Eastern heritage and classifying Hispanics as a race.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: categories; census; division; gerrymandering; groupthink; hispanic; middleeastern; race; racebaiting; races; racism; specialinterests; statistics; unity
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Subtitle: Trump should reject the creation of yet another interest group.

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https://twitter.com/Gundisalvus/status/840913753705205760

Unless the Trump Adm. does something, 2020 Census will perpetuate our divisions and affect elections. https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-census-that-divides-and-nudges-1489099696 … @WSJOpinion

Why is this important? Strong group identification is the lifeblood of the “progressive” project—which is why today’s U.S. immigrants and their descendants must not be allowed to embrace a simply American identity, as did previous generations of newcomers to these shores. New ethnic groups created in Washington are the building blocks of the progressive plan to transform America.

1 posted on 03/13/2017 11:13:47 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: LucyT

https://twitter.com/Gundisalvus/status/840913753705205760

Unless the Trump Adm. does something, 2020 Census will perpetuate our divisions and affect elections. https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-census-that-divides-and-nudges-1489099696 … @WSJOpinion


2 posted on 03/13/2017 11:14:23 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Whenifhow

Get rid of all ethnic categories and just count people.


3 posted on 03/13/2017 11:16:02 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: All

Some folks can’t access the whole article, but I found that finding the tweet with link provides the full article. Open the tweet and click the article link. As the article opens, simply x out (close)the blue box.

https://twitter.com/Gundisalvus/status/840913753705205760


4 posted on 03/13/2017 11:18:40 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Petrosius

ACCURATELY count people.

And noting else but ACCURATE actual people living in actual residences.

Not burned-out shells of old apartment buildings in minority-only inner cities that “house” “1000” (democrat) voters for their local (democrat) representative. Well, at least acccording to the NAACP-Rainbow-PUSHED-SEIU census-creator (er, counter).


5 posted on 03/13/2017 11:20:17 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Whenifhow

I have ALWAYS not answered that question or wrote in American.

It is NONE OF THE GUBMIT’S BUSINESS!

Also it’s a dumb question. We are all ONE race. There IS only ONE race. There has always only been ONE race!

The only reason for this is for gubmit social engineering. We don’t need it.


6 posted on 03/13/2017 11:21:10 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Petrosius
Get rid of all ethnic categories and just count people

Yes!

7 posted on 03/13/2017 11:21:36 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Whenifhow

While I understand your point, and don’t necessarily disagree with regard to it, there is also the need to study what is taking place TO our nation.

The Hispanic populace was pegged at 13% in 2010. If it’s 27% in 2020 we ought to be aware of it.

This nation is being changed on purpose along racial lines. That is not racist. /s. Objecting to it is.

We need to be self aware as a nation and put an end to the social engineering by race.

Whites are deemed public enemy number one by some folks, and I think it’s past time we stand up as a people and say, “enough is enough”. It ends here.

There is nothing evil about Whites having a nation where they are the clear majority.

It’s called self determination. We have as much right to that as any other race on the planet.


8 posted on 03/13/2017 11:23:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne; RightGeek; faucetman; Robert A. Cook, PE; Petrosius

When the following article was written (2014) it referenced a USA today article and provided a translation of Obama’s intentions.

Today we do NOT have a Democrat in the white house and avoided a Clinton regime. But there could be a democrat elected in the future.

Obama administration moves to create new census category for people with ‘Middle East and North Africa’ origin
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/10/obama_administration_moves_to_create_new_census_category_for_people_with_middle_east_and_north_africa_origin_.html

According to the USA Today article, “[a]dding a box on the census form could have implications beyond racial identity. According to the White House notice, the new data could be used for a wide range of political and policy purposes, including ...” and then it lists five areas in which the category would be relevant. Let’s look at each one and cut through the rhetoric:

“Enforcing the Voting Rights Act and drawing congressional and state legislative district boundaries.”
TRANSLATION: More federal meddling in local politics.
“Establishing federal affirmative action plans and evaluating claims of employment discrimination in employment in the private sector.”
TRANSLATION: More discrimination against European-origin white people who remain in the White category.
“Monitoring discrimination in housing, mortgage lending and credit.”
TRANSLATION: More meddling and social engineering.
“Enforcing school desegregation policies.”
TRANSLATION: More federal meddling in local education.
“Helping minority-owned small businesses get federal grants and loans.”
TRANSLATION: Allowing MENA-origin people to get goodies from the government they can’t get now by being classified as lowly whites.


9 posted on 03/13/2017 11:39:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Petrosius
That was the specific purpose of the Constitutional provision for a census, to determine population for the number of seats per state in the House of Representatives as well as for the number of votes per state in the Electoral College. The abolition of slavery in 1865 and granting women the vote in 1920 ended all need for separating population by race and gender. Even in the 19th Century, the scope of the census expanded to count occupation, parental birth places, annual income, whether renting or owning, etc. The Census needs to return to its original purpose.
10 posted on 03/13/2017 11:48:40 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; Velveeta; Sal; ..

Ping to article and # 1 , # 2 .

Thanks, Whenifhow.

bbl...

11 posted on 03/13/2017 12:12:24 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Whenifhow

Trump should reduce arbitrary identity groups as races.

But he should increase identity of the HUMAN race.

Give each pregnant woman the option of counting her baby as a baby, or not. It is a woman’s choice, right?

Think of how that impacts (push polls) people.
Think of how that impacts district gerrymandering.


12 posted on 03/13/2017 12:12:45 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: DoughtyOne

Since the end of slavery there is no constitutional basis for the federal government to keep track of race or ethnicity, not even to “keep people informed.”
There are plenty of private, state and local surveys to “keep us informed.”
The very fact that the federal government keeps such records is the root of the problem between races- it enables those political organizations that seek to maintain groupthink, and also enables gerrymandering.


13 posted on 03/13/2017 12:22:55 PM PDT by piasa
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To: DoughtyOne

There is also no Constitutional justification to maintain whites as a majority. That’s absurd.
The only thing we should be concerned about at the federal level is encouraging citizens to realize that protecting the constitution is essential to their liberty regardless of their color and discouraging identity politics and its practitioners wherever they rear their ugly heads because these groupthinkers are the single greatest threat to our liberty no matter what race they identify with.


14 posted on 03/13/2017 12:28:54 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Wallace T.

Absolutely.


15 posted on 03/13/2017 12:29:41 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Whenifhow

Not looking to create new categories.

Am looking to keep tabs on what is going on in our nation.

I will say though, when it comes to keeping tabs on how many M.E. people we have coming in, count me in.

Very little in this nation should take place without the public being aware of it, and that would be national security related.

As for new groups to pilfer from us, NO!

We need to stop doing it for others too.


16 posted on 03/13/2017 1:04:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: piasa

Simply say no to freebies and gerrymandering.

We do need to keep tabs on what is taking place.


17 posted on 03/13/2017 1:04:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: piasa

Absurd or not, we are headed to a world where there will be no nation with White self-rule.

Do you see a movement to deny any other race self-rule?

What do I mean by self-rule?

I mean that when the idiots on our university campuses say Whites should pay for perceived past “crimes”, and should lose all rights, that the majority of the populace should be able to strike that down.

You flip it upside down and watch what takes place.

You can grasp at straws and try to trash this observation, but it’s the current reality.

Those of you who see our nation being swamped with Mexican, Middle-Easterners on purpose, think what that means. Now while you may think that makes me a racist, the concerted effort to bring this about is not. Why is that?

We are not assimilating these people, and the Left is gaming them.

That is not going to stop.

If you care about your kids or grand-kids future, you need to take a look at this and think about what it portends for the future of Whites in the U.S.

Think South Africa. Think other nations in Africa.

That is the goal here, for the Left.


18 posted on 03/13/2017 1:10:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: piasa

BTW: Can you spot a person who urged anyone not to assimilate or claim their protections under the U. S. Constitution? By all means, point then out to me.


19 posted on 03/13/2017 1:14:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Those of you who see our nation being swamped with Mexican, Middle-Easterners on purpose, think what that means. Now while you may think that makes me a racist, the concerted effort to bring this about is not. Why is that?

We are not assimilating these people, and the Left is gaming them.

That is not going to stop.

If you care about your kids or grand-kids future, you need to take a look at this and think about what it portends for the future of Whites in the U.S. “

NAILED !


20 posted on 03/13/2017 1:50:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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