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EMERGENCY AUDIT OF BILLIONS OF ROUNDS THAT WERE ORDERED UNDER OBAMA MUST BE FOUND
1 posted on 03/13/2017 1:53:31 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Probably all were sent to his left wing buddies like BLM, and perhaps ISIS.


2 posted on 03/13/2017 1:55:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Just get them from Internal Revenue Service, I am sure they have plenty.


3 posted on 03/13/2017 1:57:07 PM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: Whenifhow

Hey, if the price is right...


4 posted on 03/13/2017 1:59:36 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!)
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To: Whenifhow

Utterly ridiculous.

Someone ran the ammo numbers and the amount they’d bought under Obama would sustain Fallujah-tempo of operations for over 100 years.

What is going on is lying or thievery on an EPIC scale.


5 posted on 03/13/2017 2:00:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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I agree, where the heck did all of that obama ammo go? I wonder if it is in the hands of Organizing for America, his personal coup organization.


6 posted on 03/13/2017 2:00:08 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Transfer the ammo from the Education Dept. and the IRS and the National Oceangraphic and Atmospheric Administration.


7 posted on 03/13/2017 2:01:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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It would take decades for DHS to go through all the ammo it purchased under Obama.


8 posted on 03/13/2017 2:03:07 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Whenifhow

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/04/04/the-great-dhs-ammunition-stockpile-myth/


9 posted on 03/13/2017 2:03:39 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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What did DHS do with all this ammo in only 4 years?

From the Way-Back Machine:

1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

Mar 11, 2013

http://tinyurl.com/1-6-Billion-Bullets-For-DHS

The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.

As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.

Add to this perplexing outré purchase of ammo, DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers, repatriated from the Iraqi and Afghani theaters of operation. As observed by “paramilblogger” Ken Jorgustin last September:

[T]he Department of Homeland Security is apparently taking delivery (apparently through the Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico VA, via the manufacturer – Navistar Defense LLC) of an undetermined number of the recently retrofitted 2,717 ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.”

These MRAP’s ARE BEING SEEN ON U.S. STREETS all across America by verified observers with photos, videos, and descriptions."

Regardless of the exact number of MRAP’s being delivered to DHS (and evidently some to POLICE via DHS, as has been observed), why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50 caliber hits to bullet-proof glass? In a war zone… yes, definitely. Let’s protect our men and women. On the streets of America… ?"

“They all have gun ports… Gun Ports? In the theater of war, yes. On the streets of America…?

Seriously, why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?”

Why indeed? It is utterly inconceivable that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is planning a coup d’etat against President Obama, and the Congress, to install herself as Supreme Ruler of the United States of America. There, however, are real signs that the Department bureaucrats are running amok. About 20 years ago this columnist worked, for two years, in the U.S. Department of Energy’s general counsel’s office in its procurement and finance division. And is wise to the ways. The answer to “why would DHS need such a vehicle?” almost certainly is this: it’s a cool toy and these (reportedly) million dollar toys are being recycled, without much of a impact on the DHS budget. So… why not?

Why, indeed, should the federal government not be deploying armored personnel carriers and stockpiling enough ammo for a 20-year war in the homeland? Because it’s wrong in every way. President Obama has an opportunity, now, to live up to some of his rhetoric by helping the federal government set a noble example in a matter very close to his heart (and that of his Progressive base), one not inimical to the Bill of Rights: gun control. The federal government can (for a nice change) begin practicing what it preaches by controlling itself.


10 posted on 03/13/2017 2:14:55 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler ("Forewarned, forearmed; to be prepared is half the victory." --Miguel de Cervantes)
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Maybe you missed it, but Senator Juan McLame personally delivered the ammunition along with RPG’S, and Full Auto weapons to Hezbollah a couple weeks ago.


12 posted on 03/13/2017 2:18:57 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Whenifhow

I thought those billions were 40 S&W.


13 posted on 03/13/2017 2:20:18 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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17 posted on 03/13/2017 2:36:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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I guess that some of the .40 mm went to these guys "The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical [sic] acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts [sic] trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe [sic] or folding, magazine – 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation.” [Note: spelling errors in original]"
25 posted on 03/13/2017 3:18:51 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Sorry, not "mm". I goofed, but why the hell does the USDA need submachine guns?
26 posted on 03/13/2017 3:21:19 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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I wonder where all those billions and billions and billions (/channeling Sagan) of ammunition that the Federal government under O-Bambi hoarded (and drove up prices through fixing and limiting supply of materials) went? Boating accident? Underpants Gnomes? Illegally and criminally sold to third parties? Stolen by that very same government?

Bueller? Bueller?

I also find it interesting that near the time for a suspected government shutdown (those evil Republi-can'ts!), all these shortfalls in material, supplies and manpower, just, gonna say, magically appear from nothing and become suddenly dire and a potential national security problem.

Now it's ammunition for the jack-booted thuggery of the Federal government. They don't have enough? For training? The Department of Homeland Security does not have enough ammunition at hand to train? prepare? secure? defend? our national security from whom?

Who exactly are they training to defend "us" against? We have 4 branches of the armed forces. We have the FBI and the CIA. We have Park Service rangers shooting at Yogi Bear and BooBoo with those evil-yet-banned-from-public-use "assault" rifles.

And yet our, heh, our Federal government asks for more ammunition and more training to "defend" us from . . . whom? Certainly not terrorists, certainly not from Muslim extremism, certainly not gang-bangers, drug traffickers, human traffickers, human slavers, pedophiles (both secular and religious), or illegal criminal alien invaders (ICAI) who are illegally and criminally invading our sovereign United States.

If the usual suspects of criminals, despots, terrorists, murderers, drugs, gangs, and illegal criminal alien invaders (ICAI), are left out of any government congressional appropriation (tax-payer) request, then that begs the question:

Whom exactly is our government 'securing' and 'defending' its tax-paying law-abiding citizens from?

If there was a chicken in every pot, and a rifle in every American citizen-patriot hand, and the will of both the citizenry and the government to defend our sovereign United States from all enemies foreign and domestic, there would be no need whatsoever for a department of anything security.


32 posted on 03/13/2017 5:20:13 PM PDT by Miguk
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Forbes (2013): 1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

WTF????

33 posted on 03/13/2017 6:42:20 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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I don’t know. I remember articles about fantastically sized RFQs being let and the answers that came back that the contracts were like an IDIQ (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) with a certain dollar sized ceiling (i.e., not all that ammo was actually to be bought at once).

If that is the case then I guess those contracts never hit their ceiling and expired - it does seem like it has been a while since that news came out. I just don’t know at this point.


35 posted on 03/14/2017 2:30:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Am I the only one thinking we have two DHSs. One overt and one covert. Overt is clearly what we are talking about in this FR article. Covert is another story entirely.

How difficult would it be to have developed under Obama a Shadow DHS and had the ammo diverted over to them. Considering how little we know about the DHS, I’d say it was damned easy especially if most of the DHS agents are pro globalist/Obama Shadow gov/Hillary/Soros and only pretend to function as the DHS we think we are familiar with.

It is time to undo the DHS along with the Dept of Education...BLM, etc.


37 posted on 04/09/2017 10:48:31 AM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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