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To: Scrambler Bob

I remember the huge ammo buys also. I did a quick search and found articles about .40 caliber, not 9 mm. Did they change back or something?


23 posted on 03/13/2017 2:51:15 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: armourenthusiast

Did they change back or something?
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Makes me wonder, too.

Then there was talk of the Govt looking for a new pistol, and maybe with a newly developed caliber.

Which would mean no interchangability with other services, and no good for civilian use. (But that may have been obama-induced paranoia.)

But for sure, can’t trust the feds, especially wrto ammo.


27 posted on 03/13/2017 3:32:04 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: armourenthusiast; marktwain
I remember the huge ammo buys also. I did a quick search and found articles about .40 caliber, not 9 mm. Did they change back or something?

The FBI [and Indianapolis PD in lockstep] has announced that with proper hollowpoint ammunition, the 9mm is just as effective as the .40, is less expensive, is easier on the guns, which therefore last longer, carries 2 or 3 more rounds in the same size magazine, and [wait for it] can be more easily used by female shooters and those with smallish hands, [Asian/Hispanic/Indio] especially when modular grip panels or inserts are used; the Bureau has a long history of fitting custom concealment grips and grip adaptors on its revolvers.

So the FBI and Indy PD have announced the introduction of the new *generation 5* Glock G17M and G19M as the latest improvement on the Glock 17 introduced in 1984 or so.

The Feeb has yet to announce their *magic bullet * 9mm round, but it's pretty clear that it will not be the US M882 9mm ball used by the US Army and USMC for combat operations [though some MPs, general officer bodyguards and Special Operations shooters use jhp ammo] A pal of mine from Indy Metro tells me that Hornady 135-grain *critical duty* hollowpoints are in the running, if Hornady can meet the contract/pricing requirements.

For more details, follow the FR *bang list,* and ask banglist-keeper FReepeeper to ping you to it.


36 posted on 03/14/2017 11:25:17 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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