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Race riot at sea — 1972 Kitty Hawk incident fueled fleet-wide unrest
Navy Times ^ | 2/28/17 | Faram

Posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:30 AM PDT by pabianice

It was not a good time for the carrier Kitty Hawk as it steamed across the South China Sea toward Vietnam in October 1972. The ship already had been deployed for eight months, and was on track to spend a record number of days at sea with a grueling pace of flight operations to support U.S. troops in Vietnam.

Racial tensions were high, in part stemming from the civil rights movement at home. There were nearly 4,500 sailors aboard — and only 302 were black. Inside the Navy, race relations were uniquely troubled as black sailors were typically assigned to the ship’s most miserable jobs.

The Kitty Hawk was a powder keg awaiting a fuse to be lit. And that came on Oct. 11, when racial unrest triggered the worst shipboard riot in U.S. Navy history.

According to historians, it started in the galley, when a black sailor wanted two sandwiches but was told by a white mess cook that he was only allowed one. The black sailor reached across the food line and grabbed an extra sandwich, a shouting match ensued.

The ship erupted into chaos. Mere hours later angry black sailors roamed the ship’s passageways, beating white sailors with makeshift weapons such as broom handles, wrenches and pieces of pipe. By the next day, 50 sailors, nearly all white, were injured, some severe enough to be evacuated from the ship to onshore hospitals. The fallout would see a number of black sailors being disciplined for their role in the incident.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: kittyhawk
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1 posted on 03/17/2017 7:03:30 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

So how many of the mutineers were hanged?


2 posted on 03/17/2017 7:08:38 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: pabianice

Mutiny..................


3 posted on 03/17/2017 7:09:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: pabianice

The race riot on the s**tty kitty was far from pretty.


4 posted on 03/17/2017 7:13:31 AM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: pabianice
on track to spend a record number of days at sea with a grueling pace of flight operations to support U.S. troops in Vietnam.
I believe by October 1972, all US combat troops were out of Vietnam.
5 posted on 03/17/2017 7:15:28 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

US troops were killed in Vietnam up until the last day before the fall of Saigon in 1975.


6 posted on 03/17/2017 7:18:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: pabianice

302 ran roughshod over 4198? I’ve trained with blacks before. They aren’t THAT bad. What happened, was there no resistance? I don’t recall that incident.


7 posted on 03/17/2017 7:19:16 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: oh8eleven
March 29, 1973. Two months after the signing of the Vietnam peace agreement, the last U.S. combat troops leave South Vietnam as Hanoi frees the remaining American prisoners of war held in North Vietnam. America’s direct eight-year intervention in the Vietnam War was at an end. In Saigon, some 7,000 U.S. Department of Defense civilian employees remained behind to aid South Vietnam in conducting what looked to be a fierce and ongoing war with communist North Vietnam.http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/u-s-withdraws-from-vietnam

We still had a presence there until April 30, 1975.

8 posted on 03/17/2017 7:19:41 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: pabianice

Africans are plenty fit physically, but an extraordinary number of them are from the left side of the Bell IQ curve. Like or not, those are the facts.


9 posted on 03/17/2017 7:20:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: pabianice

I joined in 1973. Lots of training ref the Kitty hawk. And lots of black ass kissing for many years. The punishment wasn’t near bad enough. Just the way I saw it.


10 posted on 03/17/2017 7:27:21 AM PDT by Terry Mross (How long has it been since you've haowl of ..... Democrat whip ass chili?)
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Most had scored low on their qualification exams, due to lower average education levels than whites and were more likely to be placed in less desirable jobs within the Navy.

You have to love that spin. Anyone who scored low on their qualification exam got a low level job. That's not discrimination, that's the way it works. But then the article tries to play up the fact that blacks scored lower because they had "less access to education." OK. So what? A naval ship at a time of war is not the time or place to play affirmative action job placement games. But if you are going to turn job placement aboard the ship into a racial spoils system, then why even have the exam?

If there were racial tension on the ship (and there may well have been), job assignments should not have been a legitimate reason for it.

11 posted on 03/17/2017 7:35:37 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Ah tole him gibmedat other samwich.


12 posted on 03/17/2017 7:39:53 AM PDT by ichabod1 (The Wise Cracker)
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To: pabianice
When I served (1961-64) there were plenty of black petty officers supervising white sailors. I don't recall ever being treated differently by them; a bo'suns mate was a bo'suns mate. They all (mostly) sucked!

...black sailors were typically assigned to the ship’s most miserable jobs.

Really? Navy jobs are assigned by rating (specialty), rank and availability (off watch during working hours). Usually the most junior enlisted men pay their dues with the crap jobs. I can visualize a few white petty officers with racist tendencies doing otherwise, but not as overall policy.

What are the "miserable" jobs? Over the side painting the hull? Cleaning the bilges? Sweeping down all decks, ladders and passageways? Holystoning teak decks? (yep, been there, done that!) Aloft slushing down the standing rigging? Installing the ratguards on the mooring lines? There are plenty of such jobs to go around.

13 posted on 03/17/2017 7:40:15 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Don’t confuse facts with perceptions. A lot of losers in the DNA lottery blame other factors, like racism, for their circumstances.


14 posted on 03/17/2017 7:44:26 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Vision Thing

The Shitty Hawk was rather well known as a place where troublemakers went to on their way out.


15 posted on 03/17/2017 7:45:07 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: BuffaloJack

“So how many of the mutineers were hanged?”

I might be confusing incidents but I remember hearing somewhere that at least one “fell overboard.”


16 posted on 03/17/2017 7:45:47 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: JimRed
installing the rat guards on mooring lines.

would those work in congress?

17 posted on 03/17/2017 7:48:50 AM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Facts, Damn Facts & Statistics.

There’s always an excuse for poor behavior and skills. For the left, the excuse is never the reflection in the mirror.

We who observe behavior with our eyes and experiences, know way better that the spin isn’t the truth.


18 posted on 03/17/2017 7:52:01 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: atc23

That explains a few things. I grew up in San Diego. Some of the sketchier families in my neighborhood had dads who deployed on the Kitty Hawk.


19 posted on 03/17/2017 7:55:07 AM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You cant miss that spin, and can tell that some live their lives by it.

Racism can never die if we just keep bringing it up.


20 posted on 03/17/2017 8:04:28 AM PDT by Delta 21 (The minority demands NOTHING !)
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