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To: drop 50 and fire for effect
The UCMJ does not mandate blind obedience to every order. Indeed if an order is unlawful, your duty is to disobey that order..

I'm an old Army guy who rose to the lofty rank of SP5 and who knows literally nothing about the Navy or about aviation.The most dangerous thing I was ever ordered to do in uniform was eat Army chow.

However...on the subject of "unlawful orders" I did my BCT in '69...after My Lai.We had a class in which an officer (1LT) touched on the subject and specifically said that one has no duty to obey an *unlawful* order.But strangely I don't recall him giving us a single example of an "unlawful" order.

Of course I don't want to see Navy pilots put in harm's way unnecessarily....I was only commenting on the "refusing" part.

19 posted on 04/06/2017 10:40:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I was a U.S. Army basic training battery commander during the mid-2000s. I gave the newer version of that class.

Unlawful orders are a little like porn, you know them when you see them. Some examples:

-Needlessly destroying civilian property (purposefully destroying something that has no military value to an enemy, like artwork)

-Causing unnecessary human suffering: shooting people in parachutes and/or lifeboats, destroying civilian crops or cattle to create a famine, ordering or encouraging rape, etc...

-Ordering or coercing people to debase themselves (coercing sex from a subordinate or a refugee, humiliating prisoners without a military purpose, etc...)

-Using military personnel or property for personal profit or criminal acts (ordering your official driver to take your wife shopping, directing subordinates to falsify records, etc...)

-In this case, it would be unlawful to order a pilot to fly an aircraft they, in their professional judgement, believe is not fit to fly


26 posted on 04/06/2017 12:13:45 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

This is a big puff ... if the ride ain’t ready .. fails pre-flight you get to try again when it is.

JMHO


37 posted on 04/06/2017 5:23:36 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (They used to get away with it. Not anymore.)
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