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To: virgil
yep. Tip of the iceberg. In my experience, the real supply of H1B's comes from companies that specialize in outsourcing (body shops), not "Tech Companies".

Here is an interesting list. 8 of the top 10 are body shops, given that IBM - in this context - almost certainly is an outsourcer, and I don't know what "IGate Technologies" is.

Avg Salaries run from 70K to 120K. Hardly "cheap labor". I think it wouldn't be hard to find more than a few FReepers, right here, who would be glad to work for that kind of cash.

12 posted on 05/02/2017 10:16:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
Avg Salaries run from 70K to 120K.

"The salary is the average salary of all proffered salary on LCA or Form 9035. Sometimes the visa sponsors(employers) does not enter a specific salary, but a salary range. Our algorithm uses the middle point of the range to calculate the average salary."

I'll bet the actual salary is always at the low end of the range - and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the "proferred" salary is higher than the actual salary:

From http://cis.org/miano/primer-reporters-looking-h-1b-program:

H-1B Is Designed to Allow Employers to Pay Foreign Workers Extremely Low Wages

The first problem in the system is that the employer determines the prevailing wage and the employer can use nearly any source for that determination. Prior to 2005, employers used this combined with the restrictions on enforcement to pay H-1B workers low wages. However, in 2004 Congress explicitly changed the law to allow employers to pay H-1B workers absurdly low wages.

Pettifoggers will tell you that H-1B workers are required to be paid the higher of the prevailing wage or the wage paid to similar workers. And golly gee willikers, it says just that right at the top of 8 U.S.C. § 1101(n)(1). That's enough information for the willful ignorami writing the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

But scroll down to 8 U.S.C. § 1101(p)(4). There you will find that the Department of Labor is required to take an existing wage survey and divide it into four skill level prevailing wages. Notice there is no requirement that the employer pay the H-1B worker at his skill level. Even if there were such a requirement, it would be unenforceable because skill is a subjective measure.

Under this system, employers classify

Notice that H-1B workers are "highly skilled" when industry wants more of them, but those very same workers become low-skilled when determining what they have to be paid.

15 posted on 05/02/2017 10:27:07 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: wbill

HCL - I know about them. Not just IT jobs either.


18 posted on 05/02/2017 10:48:03 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: wbill
Avg Salaries run from 70K to 120K. Hardly "cheap labor". I think it wouldn't be hard to find more than a few FReepers, right here, who would be glad to work for that kind of cash.

Depends on the cost of living; many tech jobs are in areas of the country where 70K is not a great salary.

'Tata and Infosys are getting a 36 to 41 percent savings on labor costs — or saving about $40,000 to $45,000 per worker per year.

'Adding insult to injury, Infosys and Tata have a history of getting in trouble for paying even lower wages than they are already legally allowed to pay. In 2013 Tata paid $30 million to settle a wage theft dispute involving 13,000 foreign workers, and Infosys paid a record $34 million to settle a visa fraud case after it committed “systemic visa fraud and abuse of immigration processes.”' - http://www.epi.org/blog/new-data-infosys-tata-abuse-h-1b-program/

19 posted on 05/02/2017 10:54:32 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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