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$8 Billion Deal Gives Crucial Momentum to G.O.P. Health Bill
New York Times ^ | May 3, 2017 | By THOMAS KAPLAN and ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 05/03/2017 1:59:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Two Republican lawmakers who had come out against the House bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act earlier this week reversed course on Wednesday and threw their support behind the plan after securing more money to help people with pre-existing medical conditions.

Representatives Fred Upton of Michigan, an influential voice in Republican health policy, and Billy Long of Missouri, a close ally of President Trump’s, told reporters after a meeting with Mr. Trump on Wednesday that the latest revisions had won them over. Those included $8 billion in additional funds over five years to supplement the insurance of people with pre-existing health problems.

Mr. Upton predicted the bill was “likely” to pass the House, a tremendous reversal of momentum for a measure that has twice been pulled back from a vote for lack of support.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, criticized that plan. “The proposed Upton amendment is like administering cough medicine to someone with stage four cancer,” he said in a statement. “This Republican amendment leaves Americans with pre-existing conditions as vulnerable as they were before under this bill.”

How far that $8 billion would go to ensuring that people with pre-existing medical conditions remain covered is not clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamacare2; preexisting; repeal; ryancare; trumpcare; turbodeathspiral
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1 posted on 05/03/2017 1:59:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Rush correctly stated today this is no longer “insurance”; it is yet another entitlement (tax) that is disguised as “insurance” when it really doesn’t operate like insurance anyway.


2 posted on 05/03/2017 2:01:35 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obamacare becomes Obamaclu$terf&%$


3 posted on 05/03/2017 2:04:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

So how do the people with pre-existing conditions such as cancer or diabetes get healthcare?


4 posted on 05/03/2017 2:08:37 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

First he mucks-up my lightbulbs. Now he mucks-up my healthcare.

Fred Upton needs to GO!


5 posted on 05/03/2017 2:09:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“This Republican amendment leaves Americans with pre-existing conditions as vulnerable as they were before under this bill.”

Good.

6 posted on 05/03/2017 2:10:43 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Parley Baer

How do people with wrecked cars get auto insurance?


7 posted on 05/03/2017 2:11:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Parley Baer
So how do the people with pre-existing conditions such as cancer or diabetes get healthcare?

Good question. I think they don't. I think they die. Or they mortgage their house and deplete their funds and then they die. Or they find charitable sources.

They probably can get on Medicaid once they are poor enough. But I believe Medicaid has some pretty strict limits on what they will pay for. And then they die.

8 posted on 05/03/2017 2:20:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Parley Baer

I’ve got a hunch that this isn’t about cancer and/or diabetes.

I think it’s about aids.


9 posted on 05/03/2017 2:24:23 PM PDT by PeteyBoy (The wall. Build it and they won't come.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats always hollered that Republicans would cut Medicare. Yet, it was Obama and the Democrats who took 800 billion from Medicare Advantage and gutted it, the lying SOB’s. Does the new Bill take more money from Medicare? Or, does Medicare get its 800 billion back?


10 posted on 05/03/2017 2:32:37 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So cool! I sure wish my homeowners insurance worked the same and I could buy coverage after my hose burns to the ground or is swept away in a flood.

SARCASM,!!!!

Trump is trying to save the nation, but it is not salvagable. I should have realized that despite his election. All he can do is to slow down the decline and put off the fall, and not by very much either.

We are so doomed.


11 posted on 05/03/2017 2:32:57 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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To: Parley Baer

Can you explain to me why we should give them healthcare welfare without the income and asset limits we put on welfare recipients for similarly urgent basics like food andd housing?


12 posted on 05/03/2017 2:40:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DannyTN

That kind of thinking is what brought us Obamacare.

There was a woman in my town who came down with brain cancer. She had young children and the surgeons wouldn’t operate without being given $35,000 up front.

She tried fund raisers, there were money jars all over town, but in the end she could’t raise the funds...so she died, leaving young kids behind, orphans.

That kind of barbarity shouldn’t be in a nation as wealthy and compassionate as America.

Ed


13 posted on 05/03/2017 2:42:38 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed
Something about that story sounds like it's missing a few details. I'm familiar with similar stories, but every case I've come across involved a medical procedure that was an unconventional treatment and had a low probability of success.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but $35,000 doesn't sound like a lot of money for a life-saving medical procedure.

14 posted on 05/03/2017 2:49:12 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Sir_Ed

Do you believe she had the right to rob her neighbors at gunpoint?


15 posted on 05/03/2017 2:51:39 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: NorthMountain

Well, that’s just silly.

Anybody who gets any benefit from the government can be said to do the same thing.

Do you have kids that went to public school?

Then their tuition was paid for at the point of a gun...your kids stole $1,200 a year from me, at gunpoint.

Do you use public roads? Then your use of them was robbery from me, to the point of .25 cents a gallon theft.

Your argument is silly...government takes from us as if they were pointing a gun at our heads—health care, roads, defense, schools, libraries, social security, Medicare...it’s all theft.

Silly...

Ed


16 posted on 05/03/2017 3:04:37 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Alberta's Child

Nope, it’s as I related it. Happened many years ago in Grants Pass, Oregon. Maybe thirty years ago? Twenty five years ago?

It was all over the news, on TV, radio. It was a huge story at the time. She couldn’t get health insurance, no one would cover her, so she died.

Ed


17 posted on 05/03/2017 3:06:41 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Then you’d better be ready to pick up the pieces after the next civil war.


18 posted on 05/03/2017 3:38:49 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: 9YearLurker

What specifically does the law say in that regard?


19 posted on 05/03/2017 3:41:03 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

“So how do the people with pre-existing conditions such as cancer or diabetes get healthcare?”

Those who belong to large member group insurance or work for a large company with such group benefits, or are an eligible family beneficiary of someone who does, they can get insurance already regardless of condition, even before obamacare.

For those who aren’t beneficiaries of such group insurance, they ought to look closely at Medicare Part C for this group. This is a managed care option.


20 posted on 05/03/2017 4:44:10 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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