Posted on 05/04/2017 7:42:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Still afraid of the media.
Apparently they’ve learned nothing from watching Trump.
And they never will. The cowardice is in their DNA. I wish we would primary every one of them and have Trump enthusiastically support their opponent. It's a pipe dream, but I'm allowed to dream.
Betsy's going to lose all credibility with this kind of claim.
The estimates I've seen range from 25% to 50%.
If it really was 4% she would be right -it wouldn't be an issue - but it clearly is an issue and it clearly impacts more people than she admits.
The cowardice is in their DNA.
They are not cowards. Take away their obamacare exemption and watch how hard they fight. In reality they are self interested careerist pigs always taking the path of least resistance.
RE: The estimates I’ve seen range from 25% to 50%.
Can you cite for us, a reliable source?
Our leaders, in their usual timidity, have been afraid to boldly speak up and point out that, rationally, healthcare cannot be a “right”. I have noted for decades that this would ultimately lead to problems. I recently read a quote: “All great power has to do to destroy itself is to continue to attempt the impossible.” Stephen Vizinczey.
I remember decades ago as a hospital orderly watching a 16 year old girl die from renal failure and it was only a year or so later dialysis became possible. What a miracle, right? But it cost $25,000 a year in 1975 dollars to do, per person. Gummint, that great provider of all things good could not sit by and watch only the wealthy survive this “roll of the dice” catastrophe and so instead of declaring healthcare a right, outright, our courageous politicians decided to do the easy thing and just fund it. I remember thinking at the time that this would cause repercussions down the line.
Here we are, now, 4 decades later and our courageous politicians (/s) have yet to weigh in on the question with authority and so, by default, have created the expectation in the population that “healthcare is a right” which to the rational mind is equivalent to an edict prohibiting the tide. Once again our politicians have decided to kick the can down the road and hide. How long can this go on? I suspect not much longer.
As you can see from my prior post, I agree with Betsy about our politicians being cowards but for the exact opposite reason. And it really does not matter if it is 4% or 50%, once gummint starts “giving money away” literally every single one of us is going to have a “pre-existing condition”.
Here's an HHS study that puts it between 23% and 51% based on the definition used.
And here's a Kaiser study putting it at 27%.
Regardless of the exact number 4% doesn't pass the snicker test.
Sounds like those with pre-existing conditions are going to pay less than the rest of us. Guess I need to go find myself one…
It matters if you're trying to gauge the credibility of the author.
Next I want to wait and buy car and home insurance after my car or house have a pre existing condition, like an accident or fire. That would save a lot of money.
Counterproposal — complete repeal followed by all 300 million of us taking a simultaneous mass piss in the graves of those who voted for it, followed by conversion of their houses into museums about why tyranny never works. Do we have a deal?
The 4% are people with preexisting conditions who are not already covered under other plans. For example, the percentage of FReepers with a such conditions is high but many of us get Medicare. Lotta people here also have jobs with insurance.
That is what was charged not what it actually costs.
I sincerely doubt these politicians are cowed by the media.
More likely, their Wall Street sponsors want to keep Obamacare in place. Follow the money.
I think that was the cost initially which was why it was so important for the politicians to step in and cover it before the media could turn it into a freak show/circus to manipulate the electorate. Which they did pretty quickly.
Granted, back then, a politician who advocated letting the poor die from renal failure when the wealthy did not would have been suicidal. But no effort to get in front of this all has ever been made and so those politicians became hostage to the media pointing out that leukemia, breast cancer, AIDS, you name it was unfair and these victims had to be taken care of as well. Once the voters pry open the door to the Treasury there doesn’t seem to be any way to push them out again.
Health care cost bear no relationship to the people's ability to pay.
I am old enough to remember when families sobbed at the door to get an injured child into a hospital, no cash or insurance no care, it was just the way it was.
I remember giving my father shots of veterinary antibiotics for an infection that wouldn't heal. Fixed him up fine but a sad commentary on the times.
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