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To: usconservative
First, this guy's a broker. He sells a PRODUCT and he has to MARKET his product.

No.

First, an insurance broker represents the buyer, NOT "a product" He's an independent agent.

tossing anyone with a pre-existing condition out of the so-called "healthy" pools

Nobody gets "tossed out" unless they stop paying premiums.

Here's what they all tell me: Pre-Existing conditions aren't an issue for BC/BS.

That's part of the propaganda, conflating and equating "preexisting conditions with uninsurable"

Let's assume that the "4% of American's have pre-existing conditions" argument is true.

It's probably more than that, but they're otherwise insurable.

That means 96% of American's covered by private insurance are "suffering" some form of financial penalty for those that have a pre-existing condition today....Also not true.

No, but in a GI state, 99% of them are suffering jacked up premiums due to covering the "uninsurables". (those with guaranteed $100,000+ annual claims)

According to the folks I talk to who do the accounting for and manage healthcare plans pre-existing conditions affect premiums for everyone else by pennies to a few bucks per month per policy holder.

Probably true, but the 1% of "uninsurables" rack up about 50% of the claims...never mind the mere "preexisting conditions". Once again, interchanging the two terms.

You cover the pre-x with a pre-x exclusion policy provision, for a period and otherwise write the client for all other coverages...unless they're truly "uninsurable".

What really affects the cost of health care? Uninsured. No surprise. Those who have no coverage and show up in emergency rooms - the most expensive place to receive health care.

"Free healthcare" This isn't an insurance issue, it's a provider issue. "Cost shifting" is a practice that needs to be banned. Hopefully Dr Price will effect the ban through either rulemaking or legislation.

Government regulation. Again, no surprise.

Socialist practices creeping into public policy have long since damaged or destroyed "free markets" like ObamaCare, HillaryCare, and KennedyCare. Until the ACA, some states survived and were allowed to actually sell real insurance, with full underwriting and no restrictions. Those states had the best coverage and lowest premiums.

Defensive medicine. Really? Who'd have thunk it! Doctors who have to order every test under the sun to avoid a lawsuit.

Litigation...Malpractice Insurance

All under the same heading...."Tort reform"...True, it needs to happen, but it's not an insurance structure issue.

Are the "chronically ill" or those with pre-existing conditions really the ones driving up the premiums for the "healthy" folks?

Probably not much, depends on the nature of the pre-x. But then again, do bad drivers ramp up your car insurance....Hell Yeah!

you're being led to believe are there when everyone who has a pre-existing condition is kicked out of your insurance pool

NOBODY GETS KICKED OUT OF A POOL!

The HRP is only for very ill new-applicant "uninsurables" who are dying, or have very expensive conditions...and finally decided to get insurance, and who will have annual claims in the $100,000 plus range.

I have just three words for ya: Told ya so.

And I have just three words for you:

It worked before.

(that's how insurance works)

85 posted on 05/08/2017 5:52:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
And I have just three words for you: It worked before.

I presume you're talking about high risk pools unless you changed what you were talking about mid-stream?

High risk pools have been tried in 5 or so states. In each state, the high risk pools went belly up. Why? because the premiums were so high that they were unaffordable.

With everything else that our Government throws money at like, oh say EDUCATION the lesson we've learned is that the more Government subsidizes something, the more it COSTS.

Eight billion dollars of subsidies spread out across fifty states is a pittance. Having said that, all it will do is drive the cost of the high risk pools UP HIGHER. Insurance companies like State Universities for example, will simply hoover up the "free money" and then take as much as they can get from those with pre-existing conditions --- assuming they get very many to sign up in the first place.

My preference is simple: Get Government OUT of the healthcare business, period. Make Healthcare insurers compete for business at a pure capitalistic level and this problem solves itself.

Capitalism's a beautiful thing that way. It solves every problem it takes on unimpeded by excessive government interference and regulation. Works every time it's tried too.

88 posted on 05/08/2017 6:26:02 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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