Posted on 05/10/2017 8:17:08 AM PDT by huldah1776
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Missouri senators voted early Wednesday to give residents the option of whether to get a driver's license that complies with a federal identification requirement, which would allow people to board airplanes and enter military bases.
Missouri is one of only five states that doesn't comply or have an extension to comply with a 2005 federal law that established tougher licensing requirements in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Lawmakers have pushed back on the stringent proof-of-identity requirements under the law, known as the Real ID Act, citing privacy issues.
But after hours of debate that started Tuesday, the Missouri Senate voted 28-5 to give Missouri residents the option to get state driver's licenses and identification cards that either comply or don't comply with the federal law. The legislation now heads to the House.
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How about this?
"Federal officials told Pennsylvania in October that the state would get no more extensions because it had made no effort to comply. The Wolf administration in January was granted a six-month reprieve through June 6. But after June 6, a Pennsylvania driver’s license will no longer be accepted as a valid ID at military bases, nuclear facilities, and other federal sites.
Effective Jan. 22, 2018, a Pennsylvania driver’s license will no longer be accepted by TSA screeners at airports.
Other noncompliant states are Oklahoma, Minnesota, Washington, Maine, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, and Montana.
source: "Pennsylvania is the largest of nine states to not comply with federal Real ID law for driver's licenses"
http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/Pennsylvania-largest-state-federal-Real-ID-law-drivers-licenses.html
Folks wanting to travel can get a passport card.
Ihr Führerschein ist nicht gut. Ihren Reisepass, bitte!
Missouri indeed requires proof of citizenship, residence and Social security. All of the Real I’d act requirements. Missouri is noncompliant in that it will not copy and forward those documents to the fed gov.
REAL ID needs to be killed dead, ASAP.
They said that the Social Security number would *never* be a national ID number. They lied.
They didn’t even bother to lie about REAL ID. Except that its only benefit is for the federal government. Not the states. And not the people.
And the worst part of REAL ID is that it *enables* the federal government to be even *more* intrusive and repressive. What might it turn into in the future?
Right now, they plan to bar those without it from air travel, go on to military bases, or even go into any federal buildings.
The clear intent, of course, is to guard against threats to federal operations.
It would be sane and intellectually honest to add to that "casting a vote for any politician that is to serve at the federal level".
Privacy issues?
Its not like voting where the government has NO business knowing who we are, voting,
I never understood the reasoning behind the Real ID act.
I understand it was a reaction to 9/11.
But, tightening ID standards in America would not prevent foreign terrorists such as Mohammed Atta and the boys from what they did, because their ID was their foreign issued passport. Our American Real ID act has no effect on ID used by foreign countries.
In addition, what is the point of tightening ID standards for Americans, when more and more states are issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens? The state issued drivers license can no longer be any proof of citizenship , if it ever really was, because illegals can get licenses in some states nowadays.
Can anyone explain any of this, why it makes sense to have this Real ID act as a reaction to 9/11???
I would advise though that all US Citizens to go through the paperwork hassle of getting a US Passport. Given the proof if ID and citizenship required for a number of real life situations, a passport does make life simpler at key times. Of course, a passport is going to be a mandatory item for many citizens of these non-compliant states very soon unless they want to put ID critical jobs at risk.
Other than covering for illegal aliens, what possible reason could there be for non-compliance?
Several of the hijackers had Virginia driver’s licenses because we were sloppy about handing them out.
Who issues Social Security numbers, but the Federal Government? How is giving the USG a number that they issued to you in the first place an intrusion into your privacy?
hmmm. who has done more damage, a vetted employee or a civilian? I wonder if there will be big changes for families going to welcome home days on the bases?
The civilian component of the group that would present a threat has recently grown significantly. One would imagine the increased scrutiny is designed with that in mind.
I wonder if there will be big changes for families going to welcome home days on the bases?
Perhaps not for dependents of those on the arrival manifest, but one could expect non-dependent family members (Mom, Dad, etc.) who seek entry will be looked at more closely and typically limited to designated areas.
Exactly. I’m more concerned about my SSN being on my Medicare Card.
Its organizational. The constitution actually has no provision for the federal government to have *any* direct interface with the citizenry. Everything has to go through the states. Even the military draft.
But with the Civil War, whose Income Tax was adopted by the progressive movement, along with the direct election of senators, effectively making them federal free agents, instead of working for their individual states; and the breakthroughs of FDR’s New Deal, and LBJ’s Great Society, the citizenry were “nationalized”.
And Social Security, a mandatory federal retirement system, along with Medicare, a mandatory federal health care system for the retired, were essential to insure that “the people work for the government now.”
The Social Security number created unique identifiers of citizens for federal use. The public were no longer citizens of their state, but were subjects of the federal government.
That is, those numbers were only nominally for the benefit of the individual. The truth is that they were public individual registration numbers.
And REAL ID takes it a step further, creating a single, unified, biometric identification of the people, so that any federal agent, officer or employee, can develop a detailed dossier on any thing you do or are, for the benefit of government.
Right now, dozens of federal agencies have their own dossiers about parts of your life. But bureaucrats and Democrats, and even some Republicans, want to know everything there is to know about you. No privacy, no secrets, no peace.
It is a form of madness on the part of government, a reflection of their feelings of weakness, of their lack of control, of dominance, over others. And ours is not the first government to fall prey to these obsessions.
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