What?
It doesnt matter what day you design a tank? Ground up or later. It Doesn’t Have The Energy Density. There is nothing you can do about that. It doesn’t matter what economics says. It doesn’t matter that you live in a city and can’t understand overall.
None of that matters. Physics wins. That tank HAS to be a certain volume no matter what day you design it. That requires you give up your trunk — in order to have inferior range.
There is nothing new in this. There would be no CNG Civic at all if had not already been thought of. It will never . . . the N word . . . it will never transport food interstate. You need 300 horsepower trucks to do that. Trains all run on diesel to power an electric motor.
Look, it’s reality. Cattle cars . . . a phrase from yesteryear. You had to ship cattle live because until oil arrived there was insufficient power to push the train PLUS refrigeration. 60% of a steer’s mass is inedible. Only oil fixed that. CNG isn’t going to do it. Trains that get where they are going in 1 day will take a week for all the refuel stops, which won’t be made because there is no refueling station for CNG enroute and never will be until oil shuts off.
When it does, the people who might build stations will be out looking for food and not going to work.
There is no way around it. Oil is everything.
Current CNG automobiles are designed to be dual fuel, so you have to have two separate tanks. A CNG-only car will have only one tank, and can be so designed as to accomodate the larger-needed tank to compensate for the lower energy density without sacrificing luggage space.
And no, I do NOT live in the city (although I have). I'm a farm boy who grew up in the country, got eddicated, and then lived urban for a while. I am now back rural, so I "understand overall" quite well.
"It will never . . . the N word . . . it will never transport food interstate. You need 300 horsepower trucks to do that. Trains all run on diesel to power an electric motor."
And yet both the rail and trucking industry are ALREADY BUILDING "diesel" trucks and train engines that run on CNG. I doubt that they would be building them if they couldn't sell them.
""Cattle cars . . . a phrase from yesteryear. You had to ship cattle live because until oil arrived there was insufficient power to push the train PLUS refrigeration. 60% of a steer’s mass is inedible. Only oil fixed that.
Dude, coal has a higher energy density than oil. Back in the day of shipping live cattle, refrigeration hadn't been invented yet. After the invention of refrigeration, live cattle were no longer shipped, but the meat was, and STILL SHIPPED IN TRAINS FUELED WITH COAL.The reason early coal-fueled trains had to stop so frequently was because they had to tank up on the WATER to generate the steam. Oil had nothing whatever to do with it.
"CNG isn’t going to do it. Trains that get where they are going in 1 day will take a week for all the refuel stops, which won’t be made because there is no refueling station for CNG enroute and never will be until oil shuts off.
Uh, no. The trains will simply hook up to already filled tank cars. Probably take 10 or 15 minutes to make the switch. Said tank cars can be as large as needed to compensate for the lower energy density.
"There is no way around it. Oil is everything."
Nope....