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Why the Odds Favor Islam (Nails it! Excellent points)
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 12, 2017 | WILLIAM KILPATRICK

Posted on 06/12/2017 3:55:28 PM PDT by NYer

On May 22, an Islamic suicide bomber detonated himself outside a pop concert in Manchester, England, killing and wounding dozens, many of them young children.

The terrorist was a 22-year-old named Salman Abedi. A few days after the attack, I was reading an article about the mosque he attended—the Didsbury Mosque. “That’s funny,” I thought looking at the accompanying photo, “that doesn’t look like a mosque, it looks like a church.”

Sure enough, as I discovered, the Didsbury Mosque was once the Albert Park Methodist Chapel. It had been bought by the local Syrian Muslim community and transformed into a Muslim place of worship.

Similar transformations have been taking place in other parts of the UK. St. Mark’s Church in London is now the New Peckham Mosque, St. Peter’s Church in Cobridge was sold to the Madina Mosque. The Brick Lane Mosque in London was originally a Methodist church. But church-to-mosque conversions are only part of a larger story. There are now 423 mosques in London, and the number is expected to grow. Meanwhile, 500 London churches have closed since 2001, and in all of England 10,000 churches have closed since 1960.

The transformation of the Albert Park Methodist Church to the Didsbury Mosque is emblematic of one of the most significant shifts in history: the transformation of Europe from a largely Christian continent to a largely Islamic one. The transformation is far from complete, and there’s an outside chance the process can be reversed, but time and demographics favor Islam.

In several of Europe’s cities, the Muslim population now hovers around the thirty percent mark. In ten years’ time, that will be forty percent. Of course that doesn’t mean 40 percent of highly committed Muslims facing 60 percent of deeply devout Christians. Both faiths have their share of half-hearted “nominals” for whom religion is more a cultural inheritance than a deeply held conviction. Still, the “nominal” problem is a much greater problem for European Christians than for European Muslims. In many European countries, Sunday church attendance is the 5-10 percent range whereas mosque attendance is very high in relation to the size of the Muslim population. In England, there are already more Muslims attending Friday prayers than there are Christians attending Anglican services on Sundays. A study by Christian Research predicts that by 2020 the number of Muslims attending prayer service in England and Wales will exceed the number of Catholics attending weekly Mass.

It’s also noteworthy that the expanding Muslim population in Europe is relatively young, whereas the declining “Christian” population is an aging one. Sixty-forty seems like good odds until you realize that the average age of the 60 percenters will be around 55 while the average age of the 40 percenters will be around 25.

You may object that if there is any fighting to be done, most of the fighting on the “Christian” side will be done by the army, not by citizens in walkers and wheelchairs. But keep in mind that the military draws its recruits from the ranks of the young. As the population of the people that Islamists refer to as “crusaders” ages, European governments will be forced to draw more of their new recruits from the Muslim population. The same goes for the police forces. Many Muslims will serve their country or their city faithfully, but many will have divided loyalties, and some will have signed up in the first place with mutiny in mind.

Most likely, however, the transformation will be effected without major battles. It won’t be a matter of numbers or of military strength, but of strength of belief. Those with the strongest beliefs will prevail. Those who are not sure what to believe will submit without a fight.

Will Europe Defend its “Values”?
That’s the theme of Michel Houellebecq’s Submission, a novel about the gradual Islamization of France. The protagonist, a middle-aged professor, has a number of qualms about the Islamic takeover of the university system, but nothing sufficient to resist it. The things he values most—literature, good food, and sex—are, in the end, no impediment to accepting Islam. True, he is offered several inducements to convert—career advancement, plenty of money, and several “wives”—but one gets the impression that, even without these incentives, he would still eventually convert. At one point prior to his submission, he thinks about joining a monastic order as his literary hero, J.K. Huysmans, had done, but he soon realizes that he lacks the necessary Christian conviction. Indeed, he has no strong convictions.

His plight is the plight of contemporary Europe in a nutshell. Many Europeans see no sense in resisting Islamization because they have nothing worth defending. To be sure, European leaders still talk about “our values,” but they can’t seem to specify what those values are, beyond appeals to “diversity” and “pluralism.” For example, after the Manchester massacre, British Prime Minister Theresa May stated that “our values—the liberal, pluralistic values of Britain—will always prevail over the hateful ideology of the terrorists.”

I’m not so sure of that. In an earlier era, Brits would have connected their values to God, country, family, and honor. In other words, things worth fighting for. But “liberal, pluralistic values”? That’s not very solid ground on which to take your stand. Who wants to die for diversity? Indeed, it can be argued that the worship of diversity for its own sake is what allowed terrorists to get a foothold in England in the first place. No one wanted to question all those diverse preachers spreading their diverse message about Jews, infidels, and homosexuals. The trouble is, unless there are higher values than diversity, there’s no way of judging between good diversities and bad diversities—between, say, honoring your wife and honor-killing her if she displeases you.

The same is true of freedom. Freedom is a fundamental right, but what you do with your freedom is also important. There has to be some higher objective value that directs our choices to good ends rather than bad ones. Otherwise, freedom becomes a license to do anything one pleases.

An Attack on Childhood
Here we touch on a very touchy subject. I would not like to be in Theresa May’s shoes when, after a horrifying attack, she has to come up with just the right words. But one thing she said struck me as not quite right. She said: “We struggle to comprehend the warped and twisted mind that sees a room packed with young children not as a scene to cherish, but as an opportunity for carnage.”

It’s possible to fully agree with May’s sentiments while, at the same time, noting that there once was a time when a room full of children watching an Ariana Grande concert would not be considered “a scene to cherish.” “Her dress, dancing, and song lyrics,” wrote one columnist, “are deliberately decadent and immodest.” And, after watching some YouTube clips of her performances, I would have to agree. I’m pretty sure that most of the parents I know would not want their children to attend one of her concerts.

While the world was justly outraged at Salman Abedi’s attack on innocent children, no one seems to notice the attack on childhood innocence that the typical pop concert represents. The two “attacks” should not be equated, of course. The producers of pop concerts are not the moral equivalents of a suicide bomber. Still, the fact that so many parents saw nothing wrong with dropping their children off at the Manchester concert suggests a great deal of moral confusion in the West.

Unfortunately, such moral confusion leaves people vulnerable to those who are absolutely certain about their beliefs. The moral relativism of the West is one of the chief reasons why the Islamic cultural jihad has been so successful. People who can’t see that the soft-porn style of Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, and Ariana Grande is not good for children will have difficulty seeing the problem with polygamy, child marriage, and other aspects of sharia law. In a relativistic society, the safest default position is “who’s to judge?”

Relativism Leads to Islamic Dominance
Earlier I said that Europe is being transformed from a Christian culture to an Islamic culture, but that’s not quite accurate because it’s actually a three-stage transformation. Much of Europe has already transitioned out of its Christian stage and into a post-Christian or secular stage. There are still many Christians in Europe, but Europe’s Christian consciousness has been largely lost. The next stage is the transition from secularism to Islam. That’s not inevitable, but it’s likely because without a framework of Judeo-Christian beliefs, secularism becomes relativism and relativism can’t offer much resistance to determined true believers.

Back in 2014, Theresa May said “we celebrate different ways of life, we value diversity, and we cherish our freedom to lead our lives as we choose.” But if your culture stands for nothing more than the freedom to shop for different lifestyles, it won’t last long. The contemporary Western fascination with pop culture highlights the problem. Pop culture is by its very nature a transient phenomenon. What is pop today won’t be pop tomorrow. Indeed, the popular culture of tomorrow may very well favor burqas, multiple wives, and male supremacy. There may still be a place for singer-dancers like Ariana Grande and Miley Cyrus, but that place would most likely be as a harem dancer in a Sultan’s palace or as entertainment for a Saudi prince who has bought up a country estate in Oxfordshire.

It’s hard to beat transcendent values with transient values. That’s especially the case when the transcendent crowd are willing to die (and kill you in the process) for their values. Most Brits, on the other hand, are not willing to lay down their lives for the sake of keeping bacon on the menu or porn on the telly.

Christianity vs. Two Forms of Totalitarianism
When I use the word “transcendent,” I refer only to a belief in an eternal life beyond this worldly existence. Quite obviously, as in the case of Salman Abedi, transcendent values can be twisted. The idea that God will reward you for murdering innocent young women in Manchester by furnishing you with virginal young women in paradise is a truly twisted concept. But apparently it is widely shared in the Muslim world. When, during a World Cup qualifier in Australia, a minute of silence was called to commemorate the London terror victims, the whole Saudi soccer team refused to observe it. As Sheik Mohammad Tawhidi later explained:

In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise. And if they stand for a minute of silence they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the infidels.

As twisted as these values may be, it’s beginning to look as though secular values aren’t up to the job of opposing them. The trouble with secular values when they are cut off from their Judeo-Christian roots is that they are arbitrary. Autonomy? Dignity? Equality? Says who?

“If there is no God,” wrote Dostoevsky, “everything is permitted.” Secularism has no God and, therefore, no ultimate standard of judgment. The end result is that each man becomes his own god and does his own thing—even if that “thing” involves the exploitation of childhood innocence. Islam, on the other hand, does believe in God, but not the God Dostoevsky had in mind. The God of Islam is an arbitrary despot whose commands are not rooted in reason, love, or justice.

So we have two arbitrary systems vying for control of the West—the soft totalitarianism of secularism and the hard totalitarianism of Islam. Both are really forms of slavery. Muslims are slaves of a tyrannical God, and secular man becomes the slave of his own desires and addictions. It may seem unthinkable that the West will ever submit to Islam, but many Western citizens are already in submission mode. Submission to their desires has put them in a bad spot. As a result, they are looking for something bigger to submit to—something outside and above their own fragile selves. Some have already turned to Islam. Many more will unless…

Unless, that is, there is a recovery of the Judeo-Christian belief that God is a God of love, justice, reason, and goodness—and that we are made in his image (a concept which does not exist in Islam). In the context of that vision, belief in human dignity and the rights of man is thoroughly justified.

People who believe that they and their neighbor are made in the image of God will generally have a strong sense of their responsibility to act accordingly. Such people will be far from perfect, but they will at least realize that it is wrong to submit both to Islam’s warped image of God and to secularism’s degraded image of man.

In the end, the choice for the West is not between Islam and pluralistic secularism. A rootless secularism will almost certainly submit to Islam. The only real hope for the West is the recovery of the faith that once inspired Christians to build a beautiful church near Albert Park in West Didsbury, England.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atheism; christendom; christianity; culturaljihad; dhimmi; dhimmid; dhimmis; dhimmitude; eurabia; europe; hijrah; humanism; islam; jihad; londonistan; manchester; muslim; secularhumanism; secularism; sharia; shariah; uk
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To: SaveFerris

Now, imagine a desperate citizenry faced with annihaltion by the Islamic animals or electing a charismatic socialist.......and we have returned to the 1930s


21 posted on 06/12/2017 4:30:38 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: NYer

Muslims will be the police, military, government, healthcare workers, etc in a few years.....you cannot oppose that.


22 posted on 06/12/2017 4:32:00 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: SaveFerris

Gee those are offensive photos/ graphics.

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23 posted on 06/12/2017 4:32:55 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Telepathic Intruder; RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; ...
[2 Corinthians 4:4. Whether they be secularist or Islamic, the ability to tell right from wrong is lost to them. This should be no surprise, knowing who really runs the world system.]


24 posted on 06/12/2017 4:35:11 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: NYer
Demographics is destiny. Europeans for the most part don't care enough to reproduce, so those who do will inevitably inherit the land. Policy is irrelevant in the face of the demographic mathematics.

Ironically, Jihad is the West's only chance to wake from its slumbers. If the "migrants" were content to simply peaceably outbreed their hosts for the next few decades there would be no chance for Europe. Being forced to respond to increasingly violent and frequent Jihad attacks is Europe's only real chance to escape its fate.

25 posted on 06/12/2017 4:35:52 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: NYer
This Christian church was also turned into a mosque.
26 posted on 06/12/2017 4:37:52 PM PDT by boycott
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To: LucyT; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; Lera; 444Flyer

Yeah, and you talk to the people, who through blinking eyes, don’t see anything wrong with them at all.

I’ve met lots of people on the street like that. I basically gave up. I believe the blindness is spiritual; supernatural. It cannot be overcome by talk, reason nor facts. Only if they truly want to hear the Gospel.

Acts 9:18

They did a good job with this in “The Moment After” with the
Jacob Krause character. Sure it was low-budget but the scene where Jacob Krause reads Acts 9:18 was perfect. I’m sure the double-meaning flew over many heads.


27 posted on 06/12/2017 4:41:25 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: NYer

Ping


28 posted on 06/12/2017 4:41:27 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: NYer

And that’s the way it is.


29 posted on 06/12/2017 4:47:18 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: heights

Ah, I listened to some pretty bad words on GnR albums and other glam rock albums.

I was 14 when I started.

MANY of us listened to that music. We’re ok.

Maybe it’s worse because I dont remember underage girls being in the song.

In fact the one song, “She’s Only 17” was met with some disdain by even other glam rock bands.


30 posted on 06/12/2017 4:48:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Pretty much. You could have 1929, 1933 and 1938 in a lot of ways.

I was still expecting Obama to be a shoe-in for United Nations’s Secretary-General.

Perhaps he’ll go for President of the European Union.

One thing was for certain, he didn’t have America’s best interests at heart. /Captain Obvious for sure

The Democrats would love to put BamBam back in power.


31 posted on 06/12/2017 4:48:09 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: NYer

Read Churchill

The odds don’t account for the intangibles. Ask Trump


32 posted on 06/12/2017 4:48:42 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsl)
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To: All

Islam is from the devil.

Means Muslims worship the devil.


33 posted on 06/12/2017 4:49:01 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: dp0622

“MANY of us listened to that music. We’re ok.”

And many more are not OK, and have allowed Evil to flourish.


34 posted on 06/12/2017 4:50:43 PM PDT by heights
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To: NYer

Islam must be eliminated for the sake of civilized society.


35 posted on 06/12/2017 4:51:11 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NYer

“Relativism Leads to Islamic Dominance”

Not true in all cases though it is in this one. Relativism leads to the dominance of the most willing to commit violence. In this case, that’s Islam but it doesn’t have to be.


36 posted on 06/12/2017 4:53:33 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yet many Americans are armed to the teeth. It is called CCW.


37 posted on 06/12/2017 4:54:43 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: NYer

>>Will Europe Defend its “Values”?<<

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About as much as the US will.

The ONLY way to defend our values is to deport each and every muslim and do not allow even one to enter the country. Only then will we defend our values.
If we are unwilling to keep them out of our country we shall succumb to their onslaught and will have to kill them sooner or later in a civil war. It is more cost effective to bar them entry to our country than to kill them. Not ONE American life is worth having them in the country. Get rid of them now or forever regret not doing so.


38 posted on 06/12/2017 4:54:51 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

My Hometown Is Gone
http://thermidormag.com/my-hometown-is-gone/

(around Utica, New York)


39 posted on 06/12/2017 4:56:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: NYer

With the communist Dewey’s curricula of moral relativism and the banning of Classical Christian curricula which took hold in Europe and America by 1950s, there is no transmission of Christian faith and tradition to chlldren. Only satanism or Marxism or socialism (group-think collective ideology) is transmitted. (They “feel” everything—Christianity is the most rational belief system in history and the most free and just—no other is equivalent at all. That is why Christianity is being wiped out of the entire world as I type. It can’t exist with slavery of the masses. Only Christianity rid the world of “Slavery” as a good—all other beliefs condone it, esp. sodomites since vice creates addicts and slaves. They are normaliziing sodomy (satanism) in little children now. It is a practice of the muslims as is polygamy and incest.

There is a intentional destruction of belief and destruction of virtue in our children, and virtue is essential for freedom and civil societies. The system is tearing down all our traditions and beliefs on purpose, using psy-ops in curricula, and programming/conditioning, and vilifying all American heroes, etc. to little children (read some “history” books—all written with an evil Marxist Lens (all of Common Core). Only Marxists or perverts and the mentally ill are allowed to be glorified in the classrooms today, like the pederast Harvey Milk and Harry Hays and Matthew Shepard to destroy virtue formation in children and normalize vice so culture will collapse. And discrimination is eliminated so children will be stupid and unable to make rational judgements or understand human nature. (Natural Law/our Constitution).

Without virtue, there are only Beta males-—wishy-washy immoral males who won’t defend their children or women, and the curricula will produce evil, vile women who will hate males and actually kill their own genetic offspring. (It is the Hegelian dialectic being forced on us to destroy all Natural instincts in children and destroy the concept of male and female and the Natural family. All the Systems are set in place (Federal Reserve/edukation, obama”care”, Hollywood/Media monopoly on art/information so they can mock the good and glorify evil 24/7 for the children.

It is forced Marxism to erase all our memories/traditions in one generation so they can posit total irrationality and immorality. Total removal of all the brilliant philosophy and ideas of the White Christian males which created the Age of Reason, US Constitution and Modern Science. They have to destroy Christianity to get back the slave, serf mindset of islam and socialists/Marxists. They have to destroy individualism and free will in children (Fichte explained that in 1810—how to destroy free will in children so they are so ignorant and dumb they will believe “snow is black” or men can be women.

It doesn’t matter what totalitarian belief system-—just has to erase Christianity (reason and logic and morality) and substitute another worldview— like evil islam, moral relativism (total irrationality), it doesn’t matter to the banksters who are psychopathic sodomites (like muslims) and want to control all the population of the world—and eliminate the ones who think for themselves (have agency/Alpha moral males—Christians).


40 posted on 06/12/2017 4:57:04 PM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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