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The Odds of Evolution Are Zero
Townhall.com ^ | JUne 15. 2017 | Jerry Newcombe

Posted on 06/15/2017 12:50:19 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

The author is comparing apples to nuclear reactors.


21 posted on 06/15/2017 1:19:54 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Sans-Culotte

The individual in your picture is a Hollywood actor, whose business is reciting words written for him by someone else. The actual authors of those words may be any number of other things, but they are NOT scientists.


22 posted on 06/15/2017 1:20:06 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: jonno

If a system were completely random, how long would it take for a complex organism to develop?

Probably not a valid argument or example but I remember the example of the Infinite Monkey Theorem from my college Physics. How long would it take for a monkey to randomly punching the keys on a typewriter to produce the complete works for Shakespeare. Actually, when we computed it, it was Hamlet and it took longer than the existence of the known universe. 10^12 years? I don’t remember the exact number.

The point is that a truly random system will never get started in the first place let alone survive the millions of successive steps to success. Especially when each step may result in disaster and failure.


23 posted on 06/15/2017 1:20:12 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ichabod1
If there is no evolution, then why do we share the DNA of all the living creatures on the earth?

Because we all share the same Creator.

24 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:01 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin

so they’re going with Aliens created life on Earth


25 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:10 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

Darwin’s theory was built upon the idea, now proven false, that cellular life was simple. The discovery that even the cell is irreducibly complex put paid to that theory. The discovery of DNA worsened things because mathematics entered the scene and calculated the odds of accidental life.

So there appears to be some sort of evolution going on since life forms change. On the other hand admitting that it appears that there is intelligent design doesn’t prove that the Bible is right either. That would be another leap in logic not supported by facts in evidence.


26 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:12 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: ichabod1

Yes, I agree with regard to the mouse example.

As for the other, I don’t think that would be necessary.

I shouldn’t get much deeper on that topic though.

These are superficial observations, and I’m not qualified to address this issue as well as other more in depth observations.


27 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: HLPhat
"..What is TIME?.."

It's a leftist leaning publication that I want no more of. d;^)

28 posted on 06/15/2017 1:22:15 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: ichabod1
If there is no evolution, then why do we share the DNA of all the living creatures on the earth?

Human engineers and craftsmen of all sorts like to re-use successful designs. Extrapolate from that fact as you wish.

29 posted on 06/15/2017 1:22:44 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: mangonc2

Another related fallacy is the idea that evolution is something that “happened by chance”. Since it is a natural process, it is NOT by chance, any more than the growth of a human or of a tree happens by chance. A dropped object always falls earthward; is that “by chance”? Not at all.

There seems to be an erroneous belief that any phenomenon is either brought about by a single intelligent being who controls and directs it, OR it “happens by chance”. This is not true. Think about it.


30 posted on 06/15/2017 1:23:47 PM PDT by mangonc2
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To: Seruzawa
That would be another leap in logic not supported by facts in evidence.

I believe that's called Faith.

31 posted on 06/15/2017 1:24:17 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Morpheus2009

[[The odds of evolution being random are tiny.]]

So tiny that it is impossible- it far exceeds the upper probability limits- pushing it fully into the impossible category mathematically-


32 posted on 06/15/2017 1:25:10 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin

Two great books that totally devastate the idea of evolution and the primordial “soup” using scientific evidence and arguments are “Darwin’s Doubt” and “The Signature in the Cell”, both by Stephen Myers. Both real tour de forces.


33 posted on 06/15/2017 1:25:15 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Morpheus2009

The odds of evolution being random are tiny.

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The probability of us being here most likely is very small, but it’s not zero, and scientific evidence seems to support that. But that doesn’t stop the above article from being a collection of nonsense and credentialism.


34 posted on 06/15/2017 1:29:33 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ichabod1

I believe that God is the creator of all. When talking to those who believe in evolution I just say....In the beginning God created evolution.


35 posted on 06/15/2017 1:29:43 PM PDT by agondonter
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To: Kaslin

What is the chance of You ever existing?

Suppose when you were conceived there were six billion people on the earth and two of those people became your parents.

Your mom produced two million eggs, your dad produced trillions of sperm cells.

However you exist.

What are the odds of you existing?


36 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:16 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: NorthMountain
The individual in your picture is a Hollywood actor, whose business is reciting words written for him by someone else. The actual authors of those words may be any number of other things, but they are NOT scientists.

Wow, no shit?

37 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:19 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: dhs12345

[[Actually, when we computed it, it was Hamlet and it took longer than the existence of the known universe. 10^12 years? I don’t remember the exact number.]]

But what is left out of this scenario is that you would have to INTELLIGENTLY DESIGN a supernatural system in order for the experiment to work- You would need an endless supply of ink, ribbon, keys that don’t wear out, mechanical parts that don’t wear out- the monkey would have to somehow ward off fatigue, skin problems, breakdown etc- the second law of thermodynamics would have to be suspended etc etc etc-


38 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:40 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Sorry but wrong unless you believe in animism or an élan vitale.

Your comment on this and abiogenesis is very common, but the irony is that it is creationism in a different guise.

Chemicals are chemicals, no difference between dead and alive except defining characteristics, the main one being the ability to replicate.


39 posted on 06/15/2017 1:34:20 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Whether or not that’s true; it has nothing to do with evolution.”

George disagrees with you.

“The origin of life was necessarily the beginning of organic evolution and it is among the greatest of all evolutionary problems.”
~ George G. Simpson


40 posted on 06/15/2017 1:34:49 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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