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Trump to Cuba: Return woman convicted in NJ trooper's murder
North Jersey.com ^ | June 16, 2017

Posted on 06/17/2017 8:58:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Salvavida

“I see the incorrect inference you drew from my statement. DJT is going to take an obvious injustice, and use the Cuban government’s pride against them. Watch.”

You’re full of it.

Trump is sincere and real and is saying this to see justice done.

You really think Trump is of low moral character if you believe he is cynically using such a case for ulterior purposes.


21 posted on 06/17/2017 10:04:45 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Lurker

That’s because she was BLA. She was “down for the struggle”.


22 posted on 06/17/2017 10:12:16 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: ifinnegan
I never said Trump was insincere. Their is injustice everywhere, and DJT isn't going to fix every single one. This is statecraft. He is going to put the Cuban government in checkmate. And he will use one case to do it.

Go troll somewhere else.

23 posted on 06/17/2017 10:14:13 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Excellent move.
* Shows Trump respects cops by going after their killers.
* Shifts blame for repeal of Obama’s policy to Cuba, by tying it to something so simple.
* Doesn’t require Cuba to abandon Communism, so it is actually possible to do.


24 posted on 06/17/2017 10:14:45 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Lurker
Obama was in deep,with the black radicals like Chesimard The people who sprang her from prison were the 1981 Brinks Car robbery team that killed a guard The car they used for the Brinks robbery was rented by Mrs Bill Ayers - aka Bernadine Dohrn - who would later babysit obamas children I Wonder if the FBI has any revords showing the whereabouts of Barry Soetero when that 1981 NY robbery- murder went down? http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/02/nyregion/killer-says-he-helped-in-chesimard-s-escape.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3As%2C{%221%22%3A%22RI%3A7%22}
25 posted on 06/17/2017 10:15:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Salvavida

No way Cuba will return her.

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How much could she possibly mean to them?


26 posted on 06/17/2017 10:18:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

She knows way too much about obama’s mystery years as a black radical
The Cuban government is obama’s witness protection program


27 posted on 06/17/2017 10:22:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: silverleaf

And by the way - that would explain part of why Obama was treated with contempt when he went down there

He is pwned and has been since the 70’s


28 posted on 06/17/2017 10:25:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Salvavida

“I never said Trump was insincere.”

The President said: “Return the fugitives from American justice. Including the return of the cop-killer, Joanne Chesimard”

You said: “No way Cuba will return her. This is the Art of the Deal.”

In other words you indicated Trump does not mean what he said and said it for ulterior purposes, I.e. “The deal”.

I believe he means it.


29 posted on 06/17/2017 10:27:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: KeyLargo

One of the Black Lives Matter bottom-feeders was often seen wearing a shirt that lauded this woman.


30 posted on 06/17/2017 10:28:51 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: KeyLargo

Right out of the “Art of the Deal” ... put EVERYTHING, even potentially outrageous items, on the table. Some will be tossed in return for those tossed by the other side. Not saying he shouldn’t hold out for this, but a heck of a negotiating card. The man is good.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 11:06:47 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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To: KeyLargo

Well, leftist terrorists like this POS will not be sleeping easily - the heat is rising.

With the Venezuelan regime teetering (the Operations center in Caracas is staffed by Cubans), the Cuban economy is near edge of a precipice.

A deliberate campaign plan at this point in history could result in freedom for the Cuban and Venezuelan people, and justice for this particular racist murdering communist.


32 posted on 06/17/2017 11:14:43 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: ifinnegan
First, I never said he was not going to get Ms Chesimard. I simply believe he didn't invoke her name with the only purpose to bring her to justice. DJT's view is strategic, and he will use the decades-long tactical mistake of Cuba and turn it into their strategic failure. He is already three moves ahead of the Cuban government, and they don't even know it. Neither do you.

In fact, the only way the Cubans can win/save face is for Ms Chesimard to have "an accident." And even then, it will only buy them time.

Trump throws a marker out, with no terms of negotiation. He doesn't appear to have any leverage. Watch him CREATE leverage, and watch the real purpose unfold.

Save this post and you'll see that I am right.

33 posted on 06/17/2017 12:05:57 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

“First, I never said he was not going to get Ms Chesimard”

In post three you did.

“No way Cuba will return her. This is the Art of the Deal. DJT is fixing to tee Cuba up and use this as a marker.”


34 posted on 06/17/2017 12:10:08 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
I was speaking about his public demand without any caveats.

Cuba is not going to release Ms Chesimard off of a public demand by DJT. It isn't going to happen. They would have to have an epiphany that "asylum" does not cover this case, and that she is in fact, a murderer. They are not predisposed to seek justice. It's who they are.

Ms Chesimard is in Cuba for one reason: their pride. She is of no value to the Cubans other than being a thorn to the US side.

DJT is going to wreck Cuba. If the murder is part of that deal, great. But he is going to wreck Cuba, convert it to an ally, and create thousands of jobs in the process.

35 posted on 06/17/2017 12:23:38 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

“...he is going to wreck Cuba, convert it to an ally, and create thousands of jobs in the process.”

Let’s hope so.


36 posted on 06/17/2017 12:32:45 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Police and Law Enforcement

God bless the thin blue line

By Wayne Allyn Root
Published June 18, 2017
Fox News

Scalise shooting: US Capitol Police hailed as heroes

Thank God Capitol Police were on scene when the deranged man began his shooting spree aimed at GOP congressmen and senators. It’s clear the courageous police officers on the scene prevented a tragedy of epic proportions. Those GOP members of Congress were sitting ducks. Without brave police there, wiling to lay down their lives in the line of duty, it would have been a massacre.

But this was no anomaly. The police protect and serve every day, in every corner of our country.

Take my hometown of Las Vegas.

Last weekend, Vegas was home to one of the great positive stories in the media this year. It was Saturday’s graduation of Las Vegas high school senior Daxton Alyn Beck, the son of slain Las Vegas police officer Alyn Beck.

I could not read that story without crying. Tears were flowing from this macho Republican businessman who never cries. I was taught by my wonderful dad David Root- a real man’s man- that men don’t cry. Well I broke his rule on Sunday when I read the story of Daxton Alyn Beck. My tears were tears of both sadness and joy.

Read at:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/18/god-bless-thin-blue-line.html


37 posted on 06/18/2017 6:21:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Salvavida

Exactly right. Trump just created a fulcrum. Trump cares about both the particulars and the bigger strategic picture.


38 posted on 06/18/2017 6:38:26 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: KeyLargo

That is pretty adorable that Cuba said no.

Surely they realize that we’ve already decided that Chesimard will be brought to justice.

But you know we don’t want this to be difficult either. So Cuba can continue to be petulant...or they can actually come to their senses and work something out. I have a feeling they eventually will.

But justice is coming. Trump started the countdown clock. And when that clock hits 0:00 either her veins will be filled with poison until her heart explodes within our borders, or she’s terminated with hellfire from above. Cuba needs to be smart and get something for her while they still can. And let’s not pretend she means all that much to them anyway.


39 posted on 06/19/2017 6:25:07 PM PDT by longsufferingjetsfan
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