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Trump's lawyers make final plea to Supreme Court on travel ban, with eye toward Justice Kennedy
La Times ^ | JUNE 21, 2017, 1:54 P.M. | David Savage

Posted on 06/22/2017 1:32:11 PM PDT by johnk

Edited on 06/22/2017 2:09:08 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

President Trump's lawyers made a final appeal to the Supreme Court on Wednesday in the pending dispute over his travel ban and quoted Justice Anthony Kennedy likely a key swing vote on the need to defer to the chief executive on matters of national security.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; ban; bordersecurity; lawsuit; scotus; supreme; travel; trump; trumpeo; trumpscotus
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1 posted on 06/22/2017 1:32:11 PM PDT by johnk
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>>If the court’s conservatives can muster five votes, they could put Trump’s order into effect immediately. But doing so would almost surely prompt a sharp dissent from the liberals.

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If they decided that Trump was right and 6/22/2017 is a Thursday that would surely prompt a dissent from the liberals.

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Elections have consequences.


2 posted on 06/22/2017 1:39:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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To: freedumb2003

“If the court’s conservatives can muster five votes, they could put Trump’s order into effect immediately. But doing so would almost surely prompt a sharp dissent from the liberals.”

Our domestic enemies have gone from “dissent is patriotic” (except for when their god was in power) to “dissent is busting Trump supporters’ heads”.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 1:42:46 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: freedumb2003

This has gone on far too long. The SC has a moral and constitutional obligation to settle this matter in favor of President Trump, NOW.

If they punt any of it until the fall, that will be disgraceful. If they fail to fully uphold the executive prerogatives of presidential judgment in this kind of national security decision, that will be disgraceful and dangerous.


4 posted on 06/22/2017 1:44:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: johnk

Good God if Kennedy destroys the president’s ability to control immigration, and in effect creates a liberal “no religion test” for immigrants.

I think Mr. Cocktail party conservative Kennedy will want to rebuke Trump.


5 posted on 06/22/2017 1:46:36 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Enchante

Boils down to Trump did exactly what he’s allowed to do. The stays are BS. Basic comprehension skills are surely lacking in many courts across the country.


6 posted on 06/22/2017 1:46:56 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Enchante
The SC has a moral and constitutional obligation to settle this matter in favor of a non-partisan unbiased interpretation of the constitutional responsibilities of the executive branch.
7 posted on 06/22/2017 2:21:12 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: johnk

So, if this was heard today, have they made a decision?????


8 posted on 06/22/2017 2:22:07 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: pfflier

yes


9 posted on 06/22/2017 2:25:10 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: johnk

I wonder which of Trump’s attorneys is going before SCOTUS. Hope it’s Sekulow. I couldn’t find the info in the article.


10 posted on 06/22/2017 2:26:35 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: johnk

The Constitution and law are crystal clear.


11 posted on 06/22/2017 2:28:24 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: JBW1949
-- if this was heard today, have they made a decision? --

Not yet. Well, other than decisions to take briefs on both cases, and on both stays. Maybe tomorrow. Link below is the filing referred to in the OP.

Trump v. Hawaii (16A1191): June 21 Reply of applicants Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, et al

12 posted on 06/22/2017 2:29:09 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks.....


13 posted on 06/22/2017 2:30:21 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: johnk

Our republic is lost if we must beg the judiciary for what is lawfully the right and privilege of the executive.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 3:00:51 PM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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Our republic is lost if we must beg the judiciary for what is lawfully the right and privilege of the executive.

If the SC orders that executive orders cannot follow the immigration statute in setting access. The president then needs to shut down all foreign entry, visas etc. until the court making those statutes null bring forth replacement orders, guidance on immigration entry levels. That would be a hoot.
15 posted on 06/22/2017 3:12:23 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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I hope one of the arguments was ...

Customized immigration policy, when challenged will be submitted for judicial review, as in the present case.

However, in addition to having broad authority to customize immigration policy, the president also has the clear authority to stop ALL immigration to our country, if he determines that this would be his only recourse to keep the country safe.

And since there is no possible way that an ENTIRE ban on ALL immigration could possibly violate any constitutional challenge, then any judicial attempts at any level to stop the president from banning ALL immigration would simply be ignored as a radical and unconstitutional encroachment on presidential authority.

So while the justices need to consider whether they should supplant their judgment over that of the president in THIS case as to whether this ban is needed to keep our country safe, the president must also consider, if this ban is denied, whether a ban on all immigration must take its place, in order to have a policy that, by its nature, should not and WILL not be subject to judicial review, if that will be the only way he can act quickly to keep out of our country those who want to slaughter us.


16 posted on 06/22/2017 3:19:03 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Williams

The ultimate responsibility to control immigration into America is the Congress. They could reduce it if they so desired. The problem is, they don’t want to. The enemies of America want to create a *right* to come to this country, thus making it impossible to maintain any semblance of the traditional nation. The Left wants immigration wide open to destroy traditional America. The RINO Right wants to pander. This coalition causes political will to wither. The influx continues making it impossible to act in the future. I chose Trump because he was the first candidate to openly question immigration policies. It’s a start. However, the president alone can’t save America.

Make NO MISTAKE, I am for the Trump travel ban. But I am not sure it is enough. We need a total restriction on Muslim immigration.


17 posted on 06/22/2017 3:22:54 PM PDT by Vaden (Donald Trump: making political impossibilites possible since 2015!)
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To: Williams

Why would it matter what SCROTUS says and does? They can’t do anything about his authority to decide who can come and who can’t.


18 posted on 06/22/2017 3:45:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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To: johnk

If the court rules against Trump carrying out his lawful executive duty, then Trump should declare the court in insurrection and send in the Marines to arrest them for treason.

If the fake Congress objects, declare the fraudulent bastids and witches as illegal, thumb-sucking squatters and ship them to North Korea.


19 posted on 06/22/2017 4:31:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: wastedyears
Why would it matter what SCROTUS says and does? They can’t do anything about his authority to decide who can come and who can’t.

Slight correction.

SCROTUMS: Supreme Court, Rulers Of These United Metrosexual States

20 posted on 06/22/2017 5:58:30 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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