[Regulator]

Worked with a lot of them.

Not in agreement.

Not clear to me why you can’t find similar or better in the U.S.: you know as well as I do that American programmers are discriminated against routinely.

And don’t say “we can’t find them”, because many people don’t bother majoring in Comp Sci any more since they know they’ll have a hard time finding a job, especially with nonsense prejudiced statements like “as opposed to the products of our high school system”.

PS - how’d you get there, Bubba? You from Mumbai?

[AnotherUnixGeek]

especially with nonsense prejudiced statements like “as opposed to the products of our high school system”.

That's not nonsense or prejudice - that's an observation. If you think our public schools are teaching math or hard sciences at the same levels as the Chinese or Indians, you're wrong.

PS - how’d you get there, Bubba? You from Mumbai?

I'm from California, and stop trying to make it personal. Our public school system is failing hard when it comes to math and science education and we will not be able to sustain a technological lead if the tech industry depends so heavily on non-Americans. Too many of those IIT grads and top Chinese students you're sneering at think they can do better back in their home countries than they will in Silicon Valley - we no longer even get the IIT grads, we get the ones who went to second and third rate schools. American students from our K-12 and college systems who show up for software interviews are few and far between.