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When Indian MiG-29Ks 'Clashed' With US Super Hornets Over The Bay Of Bengal
NDTV ^ | July 18, 2017 | Vishnu Som

Posted on 07/17/2017 8:52:21 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Indian Navy MiGs mounted combat air patrols defending a warship against US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets

NEW DELHI: When Russia deployed its sole aircraft carrier, the Kuznetsov off the coast of Syria earlier this year, a newly-developed fighter jet onboard the ship had many Western powers operating in the region intrigued, if not concerned.

The jet in question was the MiG-29K, a brand new Navalised variant of one of the most successful Russian fighters ever built, the MiG-29, a jet that's been in service with the Indian Air Force since the mid-eighties.

But the MiG-29K is a very different beast. Equipped with a host of new weapons and sensors, the jet is considered among the most capable of its generation, a fighter that could potentially threaten several contemporary Western fighters including newer variants of the F-15 or F-16.

As it turns out, Russia was not the first Navy to deploy the MiG-29K. That honour had come to the Indian Navy a few years ago. Along with the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya, the Indian Navy had received the MiG-29K as part of a package deal. Which is why, the US would hardly give up any opportunity to exercise with the MiG-29K.

That opportunity came yesterday when Indian Navy MiG-29Ks engaged top of the line US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets in mock combat. As exercises go, these air-to-air engagements were fairly basic, with the Indian Navy reluctant to showcase the full range of capabilities of the MiG-29K. To that end, a lot of the exercises involved the MiGs lining up to land on the deck of the US Super carrier, the USS Nimitz though no landings actually took place since the MiG-29 is not designed to take off from the deck of the US carrier.

However, there was one mission that certainly kept the US Navy's fighter pilots interested.

Yesterday, Indian Navy MiGs mounted combat air patrols (CAPs) defending a warship against US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets which simulated an anti-ship mission. Indian Navy sources have told NDTV that the Indian MiGs performed well in the mission. But the US Navy was clearly delighted as well. According to Rear Admiral William D. Byrne, Jr., the Commander of Carrier Strike Group 11 which operates around the USS Nimitz, "the MiG-29s that were flying off the Vikramaditya and the FA-18 Super Hornets flying off Nimitz made approaches to the opposite flight decks. They got up in the air and got to do some dog fighting as well."

Russia has not always been happy that India exposes its frontline platforms in exercises involving the United States but the US is a key ally of India and the Indian Air Force and the Indian Navy gain immeasurably in training with the world's foremost military power. Typically though, all modern Air Forces do not reveal highly classified radar frequencies and operate using training frequencies to ensure that even among friends, there are some military secrets that always remain.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; mig29k; superhornet; usn

1 posted on 07/17/2017 8:52:21 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 07/17/2017 8:53:21 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

With China lining up against India, India does not mind having the US on its side...


3 posted on 07/17/2017 8:57:24 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Don’t forget Pakistan.


4 posted on 07/17/2017 9:36:38 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hard to believe the Indians used to be soo close to the soviet bloc. Keep posting here. I love them.


5 posted on 07/17/2017 9:51:50 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Adm. Byrne was my roommate in the Vincennes some 23 years ago. Great guy.


6 posted on 07/17/2017 9:52:40 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
one of the most successful Russian fighters ever built

I would wager the Su-27 and variants hold that title, as sexy as the Mig-29 is..

7 posted on 07/17/2017 10:37:21 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Eighties designed platform waxed in one minute or less.


8 posted on 07/17/2017 11:17:04 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: neodad

Very cool, thanks for your service. Do you think our current military leaders can win WWIII?


9 posted on 07/17/2017 11:19:02 PM PDT by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: A strike

Only if our guys have AWACS support and can engage BVR. Exercises where the F-22 doesn’t have AWACS and has to find targets for itself can turn out quite different. The F-22 lost to a Rafale in a training exercise in 09 in ‘no AWACS’ conditions. In Cope India 04, when the US Air Force was deprived of AWACS support, the Indians in SU-30s racked up a simulated 9:1 kill ratio against the F-15

http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2014/09/23/when_the_french_shot_down_an_f-22_107455.html

https://theaviationist.com/2014/05/02/cope-india-2004-results/

Consider that literally everyone else on the planet has been working on BVR AWACS killers for decades and the scenario of no AWACS support doesn’t seem farfetched any more.

There are other issues too - such as the fact that we haven’t updated much of anything in far more than ten years and there are new attacks and countermeasures that seriously screw with our radars and missiles.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/americas-f-22-raptor-stealth-fighter-killer-it-can-be-14088


10 posted on 07/18/2017 3:33:40 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“we haven’t updated much of anything in far more than ten years and there are new attacks and countermeasures that seriously screw with our radars and missiles”

THIS is a huge problem. People get all distracted debating the F-35 and what not and ignore this issue. Platforms are irrelevant if our systems have fallen way behind.


11 posted on 07/18/2017 11:12:39 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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