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Harley-Davidson Spirals Down, Announces US Layoffs, Builds Factory in Thailand
Wolf Street ^ | 18 July 2017 | Wolf Richter

Posted on 07/21/2017 8:13:13 AM PDT by Lorianne

Shares of Harley-Davidson (HOG) dropped 10% in the morning after the company reported second-quarter earnings and were down nearly 6% at the end of the day. Almost everything was bad.

Retail sales by its dealers in the US fell 9.3% in Q2, compared to a year ago, to 49,668 motorcycles. They were “down more than we anticipated,” the company said. And with “soft sales across most markets,” sales by its dealers globally fell 6.7%.

“Industry new motorcycle sales deterioration continued,” the company said in its presentation, lamenting “weak industry sales on soft used bike prices.”

In addition to the industry woes, its market share in Q2 in the US dropped 1 percentage point to 48.5%. Shipments in the quarter fell 7.2% to 81,807 and are down 10.8% year to date.

The 30-day delinquency rate on its $7.5 billion in motorcycle loans outstanding rose to 3.25%, from 3.16% a year ago, and from 2.7% in Q2 2015. The annualized loss experience on those loans reached 1.71%, the highest for any second quarter since 2010.

Total revenues fell 5.6% to $1.58 billion. Net income fell 7.7% to $258.9 million. And despite blowing $163.2 million on share buybacks in the quarter to lower the share count and thus prop up earnings per share, earnings per share fell 4.5% to $1.48.

Its dealer inventory is bloated, so it offered incentives on its 2016 bikes to clear them out, and that didn’t help its 2017 models, but it said bravely that it is “targeting significantly lower year-end US dealer inventory.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wolfstreet.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: harleydavidson; layoffs; manufacturing; motorcycles; thanksobama
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To: Sequoyah101

Young urban Asians are much larger than that

Such thinking tells us why you are not rich


41 posted on 07/21/2017 9:03:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Stevenc131
Baby boomers entering old age, and H-D bikes don’t have the same appeal to millennials.

I have a feeling that larger high-performance bikes are all going to see slackening interest soon. The overall shift towards treating modes of transportation like appliances is penetrating down to the "biker" demographic (historically a harder-core version of the automotive hot-rodder).

Young people don't want cars or bikes, they want little silent bubbles of autonomously-guided safe space where they can stay uplinked to the nearest source of social media.

42 posted on 07/21/2017 9:04:41 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Lorianne
Harley relies on an old design that has limited appeal. Honda sells over 40X more motorcycles than Harley worldwide, and Polaris is Growing 18% per year in the US, where bike sales are flat.

Harley purchased Buell outright in 2003 to capture a greater share of the overseas and changing US market. They discontinued Buell in 2009 to focus on the Harley brand.

Eric Buell Racing started up again in 2009 but is shutting operations this year.

43 posted on 07/21/2017 9:04:44 AM PDT by caltaxed (ui)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Kawasaki builds bikes in Omaha or nearby...


44 posted on 07/21/2017 9:06:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Harley boom of a decade ago was just a bubble, as a bunch of dentists and CPAs got to live out their “Wild Bunch” dreams.

Now, with their lumbago flaring up and their lasik surgeries pending, they’re selling off their toys. The market is shrinking, and Harley is going to face some tough times in the next decade.


45 posted on 07/21/2017 9:07:07 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Can-Am and Slingshot


46 posted on 07/21/2017 9:09:45 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Sequoyah101

For long trips, I thought a Aspencade Goldwing or other touring bike is the way to go.


47 posted on 07/21/2017 9:13:18 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Lorianne

THAILAND !!!!!!!! ?


48 posted on 07/21/2017 9:13:59 AM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: jjotto

Those are to motorcycles what a go-cart is to NASCAR.


49 posted on 07/21/2017 9:15:17 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rottndog

Overpriced is a gross understatement. A totally equipped Honda or Kawasaki cruiser can be had for about half the price of a Harley and with the Japanese bikes you are not giving up anything as far as quality or dependability.


50 posted on 07/21/2017 9:16:35 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: discostu; newgeezer
Motorcycles are a lot like boats. People really want them until they own them. Then they find out that in most weather riding sucks, and with the general lack of skill of American drivers it’s somewhat suicidal, so they sell it.

I was surprised to hear that my brother in law sold his Street Glide recently. He said he is tired of taking his life into his own hands every time he has to share the road with the terrible drivers out there.

Still have Heritage but the concern about the hazards is taking away the fun.

2 weeks ago a guy on a bike hit a hole left in the road by a careless backhoe operator and crashed and "ground most of his face off". Shortly after that a guy died when he t-boned a car that didn't stop for a light.

Two years ago the safety guy who worked with our company was killed when t-boned by a pick-up truck.

51 posted on 07/21/2017 9:23:24 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (How many ways do liberals hate the bible?)
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To: left that other site

“The number ONE reason for buying a Harley has always been that it was Made in The USA.”

Mostly. The carburetor and ignition are Japanese AFAIK.


52 posted on 07/21/2017 9:23:42 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: DungeonMaster

And riding “safe” (full face helmet, leathers) really kind of kills the “open road and freedom” image of motorcycles. Not to mention making you boil in your own juices the minute the temperature gets above 80.


53 posted on 07/21/2017 9:28:57 AM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I ride a 2009 Kawasaki 1700 cc Vulcan Nomad and love it. The only thing I had to change was to add a backrest for my old spine. The bike came with an electronic cruise control so it is a great touring bike.


54 posted on 07/21/2017 9:29:20 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: IronJack

They’re also taking away H-D’s number one demographic, well-off oldsters.


55 posted on 07/21/2017 9:30:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: mom4melody

You can’t “legally” ride a Harley because of your height? Those styles of bikes have a low seat height.


56 posted on 07/21/2017 9:30:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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To: DannyTN
Taxes have nothing to do with HD's issues. HD quality has deteriorated steadily over the last ten years or so while prices have increased. Plus, the aging baby boomers just aren't buying new bikes. Check Craigslist. Bunch of HDs for sale at bargain prices.

Kind of looks like the ARs for sale on Armslist.

Finally, people who are inclined to buy new are waiting for the M8 motor on the 2018 HDs. It's supposed to be a game changer.

I don't own a Harley. I ride a Triumph Tiger, but I belong to a Harley forum. Lifelong Harley riders bemoan declining quality control on bikes that cost over $20,000.

HD is apparently controlled by accountants, not riders.

57 posted on 07/21/2017 9:35:25 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

My uncle Paul had a basement full of gorgeous Indians, including a red Chief and a beautiful white one with a sidecar. It’s been a long time since he passed ... but the memories. I’d love to have one of the new ones, but I’m not a biker, and I have no desire to become road pizza.

So, I’ll just look at the pretty pictures, and dream. The only Chief in my garage will be my Pontiac.

(sigh)


58 posted on 07/21/2017 9:39:53 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

forks also. I ride a BMW R1200RT every day to work here on Kitsap. Its far more agile and steady in rain than my old Road King. Almost any Japanese, German, or Italian bike is better engineered than the HD.


59 posted on 07/21/2017 9:42:29 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Dalberg-Acton

And probably the Voltage regulator, mine of which is on the fritz right now.


60 posted on 07/21/2017 9:52:45 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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