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Trump says young people pay $12 for health insurance (trending on social media)
CNBC ^ | 07/20/2017 | Ester Bloom

Posted on 07/23/2017 11:46:21 AM PDT by gattaca

In an interview published Wednesday, President Donald Trump told The New York Times that young people pay $12 a year for health insurance. "Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you're 21 years old, you start working and you're paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you're 70, you get a nice plan," he said.

It is possible that he may have misspoken and meant to say "$12 a month," since, in an interview this spring with The Economist, Trump made the same argument, only he cited a figure of "$15 a month."

Insurance is, you're 20 years old, you just graduated from college, and you start paying $15 a month for the rest of your life and by the time you're 70, and you really need it, you're still paying the same amount and that's really insurance.

Regardless, it is not the norm that 21-year-olds pay that little each year, or each month, for insurance on the Obamacare market. Most Americans pay significantly more than that for health insurance, even young people.

Twenty-somethings, who generally would benefit from lower premiums should GOP repeal-and-replace efforts succeed, already pay the least. But even their costs can be considerable.

An average 21-year-old making $25,000 a year would be charged $282 per month for a silver Obamacare plan, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. However, that person would qualify for federal subsidies that would cut the amount they would personally pay by half to $142. That person could also be responsible for a four-figure deductible, which is the amount each consumer must pay out-of-pocket before coverage kicks in.

Even in the most affordable states, most 21-year-olds pay much more than $12 a month simply for their premiums. In Utah, one of the least expensive states in the nation for Obamacare coverage for young people, for example, an average 21-year-old would pay $142 a month, according to Kaiser. The cost without subsidies would be $198.

In Alaska, one of the most expensive states, a 21-year-old would pay $104, but only because subsidies would cover most of the actual cost of $707 per month.

They could also be responsible for four-figure deductibles as well as, potentially, coinsurance, co-pays and other costs.

Some pundits have speculated that perhaps Trump continues to confuse life insurance with health insurance, since premiums for the former can indeed work the way he described.


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I notice this is trending on social media. Just want your thoughts.
1 posted on 07/23/2017 11:46:21 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: gattaca

My thought: Oops


2 posted on 07/23/2017 11:48:22 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: gattaca
Before Obamacare, they probably were getting health care insurance for as low as $12 a month.

Trump merely was engaging in hyperbole.

3 posted on 07/23/2017 11:54:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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And they were paying it in all 57 states.


4 posted on 07/23/2017 12:06:51 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Some people are allowed to misspeak and others aren’t.


5 posted on 07/23/2017 12:10:37 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kazan

I wondered if he meant life insurance, since he made a comment about being 70.


6 posted on 07/23/2017 12:10:41 PM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: gattaca

The cheapest at $12 a month for catastrophic insurance.


7 posted on 07/23/2017 12:12:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: gattaca
If it was only a premium for health "insurance", it probably could be done for a very low premium per month. Changes that would need to be made though are:

1. Tort reform. Docs/hospitals are not in a habit of purposeful "mistakes" but they are deep pockets to many patients and lawyers.

2. Payment for doctor visits paid by patient.

3. Prescriptions paid for by patient.

4. Get rid of the mandates that cover everything for everyone that should not be part of health insurance.

8 posted on 07/23/2017 12:13:12 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: gattaca

It sounds to me like he is talking about a whole life insurance plan, and misspoke and said health insurance.


9 posted on 07/23/2017 12:21:38 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Yes, that is what it sounds like to me, and whole life insurance at that.


10 posted on 07/23/2017 12:23:59 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: gattaca

The norm now is for 21-year-olds to pay zero, because Obama has required them to covered under their parents’ plans until age 26.


11 posted on 07/23/2017 12:28:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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And delaying adult decisions had nothing to do with it.


12 posted on 07/23/2017 12:30:44 PM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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Has to be life insurance. I have never heard about $15 health insurance except maybe when I was in school as part of student health care..and that was decades and decades ago


13 posted on 07/23/2017 12:41:54 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: gattaca

My guess he is confusing life insurance with health insurance. When your 70 you don’t need health insurance because you’ve been on Medicare for 5 years(yes I know about supplements). Sometimes Trump is his own worst enemy. He really doesn’t need to comment on everything and he shouldn’t say anything if he doesn’t have the facts. Why give the opposition ammo?


14 posted on 07/23/2017 12:43:38 PM PDT by redangus
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I think he just has health insurance on the brain on that came out rather than life insurance.


15 posted on 07/23/2017 12:45:27 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

I looked on Twitter to see what people are saying. Gerber has a commercial on fox about $1 a week insurance..but that still doesnt explain the number.

In any case..has to be life insurance


16 posted on 07/23/2017 12:49:05 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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Get $250,000 of Term Life Insurance Coverage for as low as $14 per month!

Note: I didn't fill out the request to get the quote, but yes, it has to be whole life insurance, because I know it doesn't apply to an old fart such as myself..

17 posted on 07/23/2017 12:55:52 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Arm_Bears

While saving 3000%.
https://youtu.be/U68UKtf8lAU


18 posted on 07/23/2017 1:01:06 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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To: Robert DeLong

I bought a no health check life insurance policy on someone else as an investment. Pretty expensive due to age. Has to live two years to payoff otherwise just get my money back plus 10%...but 10% is a good return


19 posted on 07/23/2017 1:09:45 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: gattaca

A minor mistake compared with the media’s constant reference to health insurance as “health care.”

If someone were to lose their government subsidized insurance (up to 100% in many cases) it certainly does not mean they will lose their “health care.” They just may have to pay for it, (or gee, maybe they will take better care of themselves or get a job with better benefits).

Remember truly indigent people are covered by Medicaid.


20 posted on 07/23/2017 1:12:48 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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