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To: Carbonsteel
One of the few pieces of data that can't be fabricated is record highs. There are new record highs in cities (e.g. Phoenix) because of the urban heat islands. But the state record highs are mainly outside of the cities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_temperature_extremes Notice that there are more record highs from the 1930's than any other decade. Conclusion: the 1930's were warmer.
8 posted on 07/23/2017 6:07:30 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

There are 365 days per year. If all temperatures were based on chance, and decent records in places like Phoenix were taken for only 120 years, wouldn’t there be on average a couple of record highs per year just from chance?


9 posted on 07/23/2017 6:10:10 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: palmer

Good point!


10 posted on 07/23/2017 6:12:11 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: palmer
The record high in Phoenix, 122 was set in 1990. This has been an unusually warm year, 119 last month, but my mom told me about 1933 when their thermometer, on the shady side of a barn in Tempe, broke and the kids got to play with the mercury. It measured a maximum temperature 120 so in order to break it must have been somewhat hotter than that.

I suspect you're right about the heat island effect but I also suspect that in the past temps got hotter than today but were just not measured officially. Bottom line, the climate varies and anthropogenic global warming is a leftist fraud.

18 posted on 07/23/2017 6:37:54 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016.)
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To: palmer

That shows some very interesting stats, quite telling is what is missing, such as the 1940’s and limited records in the 70’s and 80’s and none in the 2000’s.

What I find most interesting is that, despite high’s in Phoenix at 122, no records are shown from 29 Palms in California. I have been there when the temps were over 130.


39 posted on 07/24/2017 4:50:57 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: palmer
Notice that there are more record highs from the 1930's than any other decade. Conclusion: the 1930's were warmer.

I refuse to accept even that.
A hodge-podge spotty smattering of very limited world wide temperature records may be a curious snapshot of weather, and interesting, but climate is a whole different animal.

I contend that there are no long term (hundreds or thousands of years) reliable and accurate record of highs or lows until the advent of universal and repeatable satellite remote sensing.

Definitely a common sense observation from the written record of actual (unsettled) science.

47 posted on 07/24/2017 9:34:23 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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