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Army: Time is Running Out to Stop North Korean ICBM
Scout.com/military ^ | 7/27/17 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 07/31/2017 7:04:34 AM PDT by Carbonsteel

North Korea is the single most dangerous threat facing the international community according to the U.S. Army’s top uniformed official and matters are coming to a head. Pyongyang is advancing far more quickly with its nuclear and ballistic missile programs than was expected by the United States. Indeed, the United States is at point where it must make some tough policy choices on how to deal with the North Korean threat/

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nknukes; second100days; trumpasia; usarmy

1 posted on 07/31/2017 7:04:34 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel
Send in these guys.


2 posted on 07/31/2017 7:07:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Carbonsteel
From the end of the linked article:

But the cost would be extremely high—particular for the civilian population in Seoul and other large cities in the region. “A war on the Korean peninsula would be terrible,” Milley said. “However a nuclear weapon detonating over Los Angeles would be terrible.”

The author fails to provide any evidence to support his last sentence.

3 posted on 07/31/2017 7:16:38 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: UCANSEE2

Time to sell/give S. Korea/Japan/Saudis some nuclear deterrent to counteract the nuclear help and materials the Norks and Iran receive from Russia/China. Some deterrent on their Eastern borders might get them more responsive to stop the nuclear frothing at the mouth from those 2 proxies.


4 posted on 07/31/2017 7:24:17 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: bkopto

“particular for the civilian population in Seoul and other large cities”

Isn’t the initial plan to only surgically destroy missile and a-bomb facilities?


5 posted on 07/31/2017 7:25:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: bkopto
"The author fails to provide any evidence to support his last sentence."

You mean this sentence?:

“However a nuclear weapon detonating over Los Angeles would be terrible.”

Well, it would be terrible to the ten or so remaining conservatives in LA....

6 posted on 07/31/2017 7:35:24 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Carbonsteel

Once people realize that time is never going to stand still, and therefore the NORK and everyone else at some point will get nuclear weapons and ICBMs, the sooner we can get a handle on controlling those idiots that claim they will use them. By controlling, I mean wipe them out.

Some idiot claiming he is going to nuke the US needs to be nuked first. He’ll be the last dictator in a long while that makes such as claim.


7 posted on 07/31/2017 7:35:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: bkopto

I favor MAD for dealing with this situation.

Look, a low-yield NUDET within CONUS would be bad, for sure (I do not believe in the EMP story, at least not in its catastrophic version).

However, Japan was ready to keep fighting after TWO (plus all the other catastrophic damage inflicted before 8/6/45), and a single 8-12 kT explosion in the US would mean the immediate and irrevocable end of Kim, his regime, and his nation.

So yeah, it would suck, but I bet he wouldn’t do it, and if he did, we would deal.


8 posted on 07/31/2017 7:41:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: cymbeline
Isn’t the initial plan to only surgically destroy missile and a-bomb facilities?

Yes, but the DPRK has an incredible concentration of artillery which can hit Seoul which, if attacked by the US in a "surgical strike", they will use potentially killing millions.

I do not believe Kim would attack the US. I DO believe that, if attacked, he would retaliate against Seoul.

9 posted on 07/31/2017 7:45:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Carbonsteel
Rolling the dice predicting if the Norks will try to hit the USA directly in some fashion by ICBM,EMP burst or container ship in an American harbor is insane. A failed risk assessment at the expense of a million Ameicans is disgusting. If we do nothing,they are emboldened.If we keep sabre rattling,it provokes them. There is no easy answer but status quo needs to end.

The Korean War is not over and more lives will be lost. This has to end and how many lives lost depends on how long we let this fester.

Militarily it can be done and the war plans are ready. The very big problem is the humanitarian crisis afterwards where tens of millions of North Koreans will need immediate humanitarian help. Another question is who will occupy North Korea once it's defeated and the Korean War officially ends. I think the Chicoms can FOAD. They are a main reason for all of this just as much as Clinton,Bush and Obama who were enablers.

10 posted on 07/31/2017 8:11:16 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: bkopto

Might tickle the fault and send it all into the Pacific - putting the beautiful climate out of reach of conservatives forever.....and creating a terrible stench of dead liberal bodies that would take several months to abate....


11 posted on 07/31/2017 8:43:42 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: CodeToad

50% of his launches blow up on the pad. The rest fall somewhere in the sea of Japan. NK is Wiley Coyote. An asteroid will hit the US before a Nork nuke does. With any luck Fatboy will manage to duct tape a nuke to a rocket and blow NK to kingdom come.


12 posted on 07/31/2017 9:00:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The rest fall somewhere in the sea of Japan.”

That can be by design. We do the same thing.


13 posted on 07/31/2017 9:09:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: CodeToad

Here’s the deal. Everybody running around like chicken little over NK and I’m not sayin its you likely does not have an extra can of chili in the pantry against the far greater likelihood of Iran hacking down the NE power grid.


14 posted on 07/31/2017 9:34:34 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CodeToad; Georgia Girl 2
That can be by design. We do the same thing.

It IS by design. NK is way too close to an operational ICBM capability that can cover all of CONUS. The Korean War is at a point where its end can no longer be put off. Thank you again to all the leftist administrations that have tolerated or facilitated this.

15 posted on 07/31/2017 9:41:32 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Carbonsteel

China or Russia is supplying the North Koreans with the missile technology.
The Russians gave China nuclear technology back in the 1960’s so I suspect it is the Russians.


16 posted on 07/31/2017 9:50:34 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Carbonsteel

Start evacuating Seoul to draw out his hand, while moving more forces to devastate every facet of his military if he does move.

Every sub that can sling a Tomahawk should be in the area. Saturate his arty before it can fire.

We own the sea and the sky, and if his military is decimated, why occupy the north?

The biggest buildup will be for the inevitable humanitarian crisis.


17 posted on 07/31/2017 9:53:59 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (In Safe Space, no one can hear you weep....No one cares either.)
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To: Carbonsteel

If You happen to be ALIVE THEN: Throughout the late 1950s and into the 1960s, the United States and the Soviet Union had been developing missile systems with the ability to shoot down incoming ICBM warheads. During this period, the US considered the defense of the US as part of reducing the overall damage inflicted in a full nuclear exchange. As part of this defense, Canada and the US established the North American Air Defense Command (now called North American Aerospace Defense Command).

By the early 1950s, US research on the Nike Zeus missile system had developed to the point where small improvements would allow it to be used as the basis of an operational ABM system. Work started on a short-range, high-speed counterpart known as Sprint to provide defense for the ABM sites themselves. By the mid-1960s, both systems showed enough promise to start development of base selection for a limited ABM system dubbed Sentinel. In 1967, the US announced that Sentinel itself would be scaled down to the smaller and less expensive Safeguard. Soviet doctrine called for development of its own ABM system and return to strategic parity with the US. This was achieved with the operational deployment of the A-35 ABM system and its successors, which remain operational to this day.


18 posted on 07/31/2017 1:02:15 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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To: Carbonsteel

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-an-interceptor-take-out-an-icbm-target-for-the-ve-1795697733


19 posted on 07/31/2017 1:02:35 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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