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To: BroJoeK

“Basic evolution theory can only be a “lie” if its assumptions are lies, such assumptions as: 1) only natural explanations for natural processes, 2) nature worked the same in the past as we see today, and 3) “Occam’s Razor” the simplest explanation that works is the best.

Most people, including all scientists, don’t think those assumptions are lies and would not accept your association of them or science in general with Satan.”

1. “Natural explanations” cannot explain how millions and millions of lines of code could have randomly arisen in the DNA of every living creature. Neither do the maths support such a foolish explanation.
2. Evolutionists cannot produce a single example of one species morphing into another species in our lifetime. Nor can they prove that the hierarchy of being in which we live is somehow the result of a process that no one has ever observed.
3. Taking away the agent cause, leaving only matter, form, and end makes the supposed science of evolution convoluted, for now the poor material cause has to take on the duties of the agent. The same holds true for the formal cause. And the final cause has to be suppressed. All of this damages scientific inquiry.


76 posted on 08/11/2017 7:28:00 AM PDT by blackpacific
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To: blackpacific
blackpacific: " “Natural explanations” cannot explain how millions and millions of lines of code could have randomly arisen in the DNA of every living creature.
Neither do the maths support such a foolish explanation."

I don't agree there was anything truly "random" about it.
For an analogy, just consider gambling machines in a casino.
They are carefully designed, manufactured & inspected to insure they function as intended.
And what is intended?
To produce a profit for the casino, of course, and if they are working properly, regardless of how "random" they may seem to users, they reliably produce profits.
Also with God's "casino", regardless of how "random" it appears to us, God's plan **always** profits.

blackpacific: " Evolutionists cannot produce a single example of one species morphing into another species in our lifetime.
Nor can they prove that the hierarchy of being in which we live is somehow the result of a process that no one has ever observed "

Of course they can produce and we can observe, but it all depends on your definitions of "species" or "morphing".
So an evolution-denier like yourself will tightly shut your eyes and simply refuse to see what's there to be seen.

blackpacific: "Taking away the agent cause, leaving only matter, form, and end makes the supposed science of evolution convoluted, for now the poor material cause has to take on the duties of the agent.
The same holds true for the formal cause.
And the final cause has to be suppressed.
All of this damages scientific inquiry. "

If you designed a reaction chamber, such as chemists use to produce new compounds, then you would not be surprised to see in your chamber raw materials reacting, uniting & "complexifying" as you intended.
You never personally touched them, but they still did just what you intended & designed your chamber to do.

Now scale that up to the size of the Earth, or even the entire Universe, and ask yourself: if God designed His "reaction chamber" perfectly, how much will He need to intervene to insure it does what He intends?
My answer is: only as much as He intended from the Beginning.
Further, some of God's miraculous interventions may well appear to us as nothing more than the "random" turning of celestial "slot machines".

And your problem with that is what, exactly?

79 posted on 08/12/2017 5:23:13 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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