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To: blackpacific
blackpacific: "No, adaptation within species is an argument by association.
Which is the weakest form of argument."

OK, so I "get" that you took Philosophy 101 and now consider yourself a licensed master of philosophical insults, such as "argument by association... the weakest..."
In fact, my example of creating the new species of dogs from wolves has nothing to do with "association", but rather observed fact, we know for certain it happened.
And that helps confirm the theory of how these things work, evolution theory.

blackpacific: "No serious mind can look at the human genome or bovine genome and walk away from that knowledge thinking that any of it arose from inorganic chemistry and random unguided processes."

Well, organic chemistry, of course.
As for "guided", if you put raw materials in a chemical reaction chamber, and use it to create new compounds, is that not "guided"?
So, if God puts His raw materials into His reaction chamber (Earth) and creates new living organisms, using evolution among other processes, is that not also "guided"?

blackpacific: "Charles Darwin was an ignorant fool, and those who continue his stupid legacy do so in the face of mountains of information theory that have come to light in the last 100 years."

And they taught you this form of argumentation in that same Philosophy 101 class??
In my classes, they called that a false argument, ad hominem and factually in error.

blackpacific: "As scientists continue to crawl over the human genome they will find a counter that increments by one every time a generation has occurred."

I think there are already many such "counters", in the form of more-or-less random mutations in non-coding DNA which allow us to trace our ancestries back through history and pre-history.
And there are also coding-DNA mutations which can be seen in other species and so allow us tell how closely or distantly various species are related to each other.

blackpacific: "That number will not correspond to millions and millions of generations."

I'd not be surprised if that's true of some "counters", but not of others.

85 posted on 08/13/2017 3:10:25 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Wolves and dogs are the same species. So after numerous tries you have not produced a single example of one species “evolving” into another. Adaptation within a species is what you have showcased.

Darwin's arguments by similarity rely upon ignorance of what is going on at the cellular and molecular levels. Those who continue to promote his ignorant ideas are stupid, and having a Darwinian world view retards the development of true science.

My organic chemistry teacher noted that the production of human growth hormone in the lab takes about 11,000 carefully controlled reactions to produce outside the cell. Which is both a testament to the gift of reason and the awesome majesty of our Creator.

86 posted on 08/13/2017 7:31:28 AM PDT by blackpacific
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