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To: BroJoeK

Scientific knowledge and natural science are as genus to species. Yet the moderns think that natural science rules. For those who are educated, philosophy, which is the love of wisdom, is the highest science which human reason can attain. Theology can be divided into natural theology, which is the theology we can attain by the light of our natural reason, and sacred theology, which is based upon divinely revealed propositions. Philosophy is the hand maid of theology, as theology treats of the highest object, which is God. Anyone with a rudimentary foundation in the liberal arts would know these hierarchies of knowledge.

The study of nature has blossomed in the last few hundred years primarily due to the emphasis on measurement and the knowledge gleaned from these data. There have also been some truly remarkable explosions in mathematics in conjunction with these careful observations that have propelled us to where we are today.

But the stupid evolutionary world view invented by Darwin, and propagated by willful men, has masqueraded as scientific dogma. And those who poke fun at it get treated rudely, as you have so aptly demonstrated.

Here is something for you to ponder. The first principles of any science are known by intuition, not by demonstration. Do you have any idea why?

The point I was making earlier is that the evolutionary world view leads mens souls away from God. Those who promote it participate in the apostasy and scandal. If you do not see this I cannot help you ( I cannot “see” for you).


90 posted on 08/17/2017 9:01:09 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: blackpacific
blackpacific: "Scientific knowledge and natural science are as genus to species.
Yet the moderns think that natural science rules. "

It's true, by definition of "science" it comes from Latin "scientia" meaning "knowledge", any knowledge including knowledge of magic or supernatural processes, not just the natural or material realm.
For centuries, studies & knowledge of nature were called "natural-philosophy", as in the time of our Founding Fathers.
But even in their time the word "science" meant pretty much what it does today: natural science, as in the US Constitution:

There's no possibility that our Founders intended the word "science" to include anything other than natural-science.

Of course we do recognize other forms of science -- social-science, political-science, formal science (math), applied science (i.e., engineering, medicine), economic science, etc.
Some of these (i.e., poli-sci) are questionable as to whether they really are science or just hokum.

But I've never seen words like theological-science or religious-science, or supernatural-science -- those terms just don't fit a word intended since the time of our Founders for the natural/material realm.
They are not appropriate.

Indeed, any attempt to combine something supernatural with the word "science" would likely fall into categories like: fake-science, pseudoscience, fringe science, junk science, or my favorite: "cargo-cult science".

blackpacific: "Anyone with a rudimentary foundation in the liberal arts would know these hierarchies of knowledge."

Right.

blackpacific: "But the stupid evolutionary world view invented by Darwin, and propagated by willful men, has masqueraded as scientific dogma.
And those who poke fun at it get treated rudely, as you have so aptly demonstrated."

Noooooo. Are you telling me that those who treat science rudely are sometimes themselves treated rudely??
I don't believe it, whoever would do such a thing?

As for "scientific dogma" that's just your anti-scientific opinion showing.
You don't like it so you say bad things about it.

blackpacific: "The point I was making earlier is that the evolutionary world view leads mens souls away from God.
Those who promote it participate in the apostasy and scandal.
If you do not see this I cannot help you ( I cannot “see” for you)."

Apostasy??
But nowhere in the Bible or any Confession of Faith I've ever seen is evolution theory even mentioned, much less declared a matter of essential belief.
Of course, in your church it may be different, but in most churches believers are delighted to learn that God left us amazing clues as to how He accomplished His greatest miracles.
And I don't think Christ will disown us for recognizing that.

You do?



91 posted on 08/19/2017 10:23:03 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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