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$78,000 of Debt for a Harvard Theater Degree
The New York Times ^ | 07 Aug 2017 | SOPHIE HAIGNEY

Posted on 08/08/2017 9:50:37 AM PDT by Theoria

Twelve years after finishing Harvard’s graduate theater program, Katierose Donohue still pays almost as much in student loans each month — about $650 — as for her share of the rent in Los Angeles. She recently stopped hosting her monthly sketch comedy show, “Ma’am,” because she didn’t always break even on her $200 budget. She’s now working side jobs as a dog walker and a social media copywriter, after past gigs serving at Starbucks and handing out free cigarettes for Camel.

She’s never missed a loan payment, but there’s no end in sight: She borrowed nearly $75,000 to attend the American Repertory Theater Institute, or A.R.T. Institute, at Harvard and still owes about $54,000.

“I can’t afford to make my craft, even though I’m regularly booking work,” Ms. Donohue said. “One fellow alum said to me, ‘Getting this degree basically guaranteed that I wasn’t able to pursue it as a career because I immediately had to get a job to pay for the education I received.’”

Most young actors don’t face graduate school debt like this — yet it is common for those who attend the A.R.T. Institute. Despite being at the world’s wealthiest university, institute students receive modest financial aid and leave with a median of $78,000 in debt in exchange for a master of liberal arts degree from the Harvard Extension School. In contrast, the loan debt average for master of fine arts students at Yale School of Drama tends to be around $14,000, a financial-aid officer said. At Juilliard, the average student loan debt for the four-year undergraduate drama program is $27,000.

The steep repayment burdens have been a straitjacket on students and their career aspirations for years. But now they have become a major problem for Harvard and the A.R.T. Institute, too.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: boohoo; college; debt; degree; dopeydems; educationfunding; harvard; highereducation; liberalarts; studentdebt; studentloans
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To: Theoria

Dennis Prager said it 20 years ago. An Ivy League undergrad degree is not close to worth the price. Now it is obscenely overpriced.


41 posted on 08/08/2017 10:22:07 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: Paladin2
Most Universities are criminal enterprises that collude with government and rip off kids with debt and useless degrees. They expand in obscene fashion as the endowments and investments swell. Student loan debt is a bubble ready to burst. College as an institution is a racket that is not providing America with the future workforce needed so that is why we import people.

BTW,I know many who worked through school and have ZERO debt with a MARKETABLE degree. It is disgusting that Bernie Sander's support was mostly the Millennial Stupid Generation of people who think their debt will magically disappear. I guarantee this will come back next election.

42 posted on 08/08/2017 10:23:05 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Theoria

My youngest son owes us about 28k for helping him get thru his first 5 years of college (BSEE). He won a scholarship thru the DoD to fund his grad school and defends his PhD thesis in a couple of days. Should make some good money working at the AFRL. I considered it a great investment. /proud Dad


43 posted on 08/08/2017 10:23:21 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: Theoria

Just once I’d like to see the NY run a story about a plumber or electrician and their crippling student loan debt.

Or, here’s an idea, how about a story where the New York Times explains to the social science majors of the world why those types of people don’t exist.


44 posted on 08/08/2017 10:26:18 AM PDT by jz638
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To: Gay State Conservative
#8: "Community Organizing...all subjects that you don't want to go into debt to study"

I'm still trying to understand how a "community organizer" becomes a multi-multi-millionaire. Was he working at the soup kitchen? Collecting clothes for the homeless?

Joe Biden said it was because the "community organizer" was so clean and articulate. Not what Biden expected at all.
 

45 posted on 08/08/2017 10:26:21 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: shanover
I guarantee this will come back next election.

Yup, that was my point. They let it slide last year because they were all convinced Hillary had it in the bag. Next time they will be hitting this hot and heavy in September and October, and the results won't be pretty.

It will be sold as an economic benefit. "Young families will now have the ability to purchase houses and cars", yadda yadda.


46 posted on 08/08/2017 10:28:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: laker_dad

Congrats. Sounds like a plan that will benefit everyone.


47 posted on 08/08/2017 10:29:14 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Harvard is a joke. I have never met a Harvard grad that was worth a hill of beans.


48 posted on 08/08/2017 10:30:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: Theoria

Listen, lady, the bank did exactly what you asked them to do. Your problem is with the liberal institution, Harvard. THEY are the ones that ripped you off. Then again, what was wrong with going to the local junior college or state college? Had to go to Harvard, eh?

49 posted on 08/08/2017 10:32:17 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, funny isn’t it how little of that actually goes to deserving, merit-based students? Instead the greedy jerks in the administration want more and more for themselves and their cronies

Or they piss some of it away with “diversity scholarships” and faculty tokens


50 posted on 08/08/2017 10:32:33 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW! Boycott Mex/Can, nba NFL PepsiCO Kellogg'sB)
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To: Theoria

Thats a lot of green to prepare oneself for a career as a restaurant server.


51 posted on 08/08/2017 10:34:15 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If we're going to look at nature to justify our actions, then I say let's start flinging poop around)
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To: Theoria

Of course the theory of Harvard is that they’re teaching you to MAKE jobs not get them. Not sure how that ties into a MFA but you’re definitely not supposed to be scrambling for improv gigs in LA afterwards.


52 posted on 08/08/2017 10:36:43 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: Theoria

I’ll bet dollars to donuts she regularly communicates with “professors”, who’s exorbitant tenured salaries are funded by the very college loan debt that is her yoke.


53 posted on 08/08/2017 10:37:41 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Our Local U now has some kind of an Administrative Position to handle “Cultural Ripoff” cases on Campus.


54 posted on 08/08/2017 10:38:28 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Theoria

If she went to work for the National Endowment for the Arts she could enroll in the Public Service Student Loan Forgiveness Program and pay it off, at an income based rate, after 10 years of such service. At 10 years the balance would be written off.....tax free BTW.


55 posted on 08/08/2017 10:42:02 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Theoria


56 posted on 08/08/2017 10:44:52 AM PDT by simpson96
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57 posted on 08/08/2017 10:45:23 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: discostu

Exactly. You should be opening your own theater.


58 posted on 08/08/2017 10:46:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Theoria

Passing out free cigarettes. Do I detect the faint odor of hypocrisy here? No doubt she’s one of the libs who demand that smokers be stood against a wall and shot.


59 posted on 08/08/2017 10:48:20 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Theoria
You mean, you can't go to school to become famous?

She should have been born pretty, instead. :)

60 posted on 08/08/2017 10:50:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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