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To: mkleesma

Classy.

When you can’t defend against the points raised, instead you launch an ad hominem. Now that you’ve vented your spleen, please explain how the numerous broken treaties with the Natives in the Western US was not colonization. Let’s try the ‘liberation’ of the Philippines in 1898. Please explain how this was not colonization.

The truth hurts, doesn’t it!

Human nature is such that we look after ourselves first and foremost. When we desire something so we take it, if we can. be it through trade or force. America has done it’s share of colonizing in the past. Acknowledging that your country is imperfect, like every other country, will set you free.


28 posted on 08/12/2017 8:05:01 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

The “truth” doesn’t hurt me. Colonization is not necessarily a bad thing, overall, though sometimes the specifics involved are.

For example, I have lived much of my life near the “Trail of Tears” the Shawnee had to endure when forced off their lands. There is no excuse for what was done to these people: They could have been moved much more humanely.

And yet, the sometimes ugly process of the US becoming a great world power lead to one of the greatest forces for good on the planet.

We treated some - a relative few, actually - of the Filipinos badly / worse than they deserved. But we also left the country, at least in the late 1940’s into the early 50’s, with democracy, as good friends (with occasional disagreements), and as the “Tiger of the Pacific”, economically. Unfortunately, it appears we did not stay in control long enough to erase the former Spanish and certain tribal tendencies thoroughly enough.

Most Puerto Ricans want US statehood, not secession.

And so on.


31 posted on 08/13/2017 5:38:49 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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