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To: Jamestown1630
Just because YOU lack the knowledge doesn't mean that others, here, are as uneducated as you are, re this topic.

And again, I'll ask you....what date would you like me to begin with?

But I'll hit ya with one wee tidbit: the first negro admitted to West Point was James W. Smith, in 187p and it was without Affirmative Action! Sadly, he didn't graduate due to how he was treated and NOT because he couldn't keep up/pass the classes. The first negro to graduate from West Point, was the former slave, Henry Flipper, in 1877 !

Just on WHAT, do you base your claim that ALL blacks have continually suffered from a vast lack of of good schooling? Please reply in detail.

59 posted on 08/17/2017 7:34:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
My point was that after Lincoln died, there was very little help regarding education for the former slaves. What real help was available was through isolated, private endeavors.

A few had patrons, or enormous personal gumption, and did well. But the vast majority were left alone, and ignorant. They had 'literacy' tests imposed upon them, in order to qualify to vote - but nobody had bothered to teach very many of them to read. One of the tragedies of Emancipation, is that these people were set loose and left helpless, in many ways.

Here is what Shelby Foote said in an interview:

The institution of slavery is a stain on this nation's soul that will never be cleansed. It is just as wrong as wrong can be, a huge sin, and it is on our soul.

There's a second sin that's almost as great and that's emancipation. They told four million five hundred thousand people, You are free, hit the road. And we're still suffering from that. Three quarters of them couldn't read or write, not one tenth of them had a profession except for farming, and yet they were turned loose and told, Go your way.

In 1877 the last Union troops were withdrawn after a dozen years of being in the South to assure compliance with the law. Once they were withdrawn all the Jim Crow laws and everything else came down on the blacks. Their schools were inferior in every sense. They had the Freedmen's Bureau, which did, perhaps, some good work, but it was mostly a joke, corrupt in all kinds of ways.

So they had no help. Just turned loose on the world, and they were waifs. It's a very sad thing. There should have been a huge program for schools. There should have been all kinds of employment provided for them. Not modern welfare, you can't expect that in the middle of the nineteenth century, but there should have been some earnest effort to prepare these people for citizenship.

They were not prepared, and operated under horrible disadvantages once the army was withdrawn, and some of the consequences are very much with us today.


By the way: in this interview, Foote said that he would have fought on the side of the Confederacy, saying,"The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century":

I can't find a direct link to this original interview - it seems to have been 'cleansed', and you can only find it through websites that view it in a derogatory way; but that is what the man said.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/06/the-convenient-suspension-of-disbelief/240318/

I hope that's enough "detail' for you. But I'm curious: why are you so darn angry???)
66 posted on 08/17/2017 8:27:48 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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