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Trump administration to set rules for military transgender ban
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | August 23, 2017 | Gordon Lubold

Posted on 08/23/2017 8:49:18 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

WASHINGTON – The White House is expected to send guidance to the Pentagon in coming days on how to implement a new administration ban on transgender people in the military, issuing a policy that will allow Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to consider a service member’s ability to deploy in deciding whether to kick them out of the military.

The White House memo also directs the Pentagon to deny admittance to transgender individuals and to stop spending on medical treatment regimens for those currently serving, according to U.S. officials familiar with the document.

The 2½-page memo gives Mr. Mattis six months to prepare to fully implement the new ban, according to these officials.

Mr. Mattis under the new policy is expected to consider “deployability”—the ability to serve in a war zone, participate in exercises or live for months on a ship—as the primary legal means to decide whether to separate service members from the military, the officials said.

The policy was announced by President Donald Trump in a series of tweets on July 26, which effectively reinstated a ban on open transgender service that had been lifted the year before, under former President Barack Obama, in a move that also provided for military medical care for the condition known as gender dysphoria.

Gender dysphoria is a condition that many professional associations have said requires medical treatment. For instance, gender dysphoria is recognized by the American Psychiatric Association as a medical issue. When diagnosed by a medical professional, transition therapy and reassignment surgery is considered by some insurers and states as a medically necessary treatment.

Employing the criteria of deployability to remove service members is bound to be greeted with deep opposition.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; lgbt; military; transgender
If this article can be believed Trump is already going back on his word. He flatly said that "transgenders" would not be serving in the US military in "any capacity." Letting Mattis decide who to keep and who to kick out is absolutely not what he said. And if that's fact, there will be no ban on "transgenders" in the Armed Forces.

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," "Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail." Thank you

1 posted on 08/23/2017 8:49:18 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Employing the criteria of deployability to remove service members is bound to be greeted with deep opposition.

Really? What a shame. The snowflakes and SJWs will be all upset.

2 posted on 08/23/2017 9:03:13 PM PDT by upchuck (Maybe oxygen is slowly killing you and it just takes 75-100 years to fully work.)
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To: NKP_Vet

If the theme had been to let them have their status and life-style....we just won’t pay for it (meaning no drain on medical costs), then we’d be talking about a different situation.


3 posted on 08/23/2017 9:05:31 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: NKP_Vet

If cannot get their freebies and cause a scene they will walk on their own. The majority will for sure then if no playhouse others will go to.


4 posted on 08/23/2017 9:43:20 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: NKP_Vet

One thing that is certain through all this debate is that President Donald J. Trump is the Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces and should get the final say.


5 posted on 08/24/2017 12:10:43 AM PDT by Spiridon
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To: easternsky

a mental institute may help


6 posted on 08/24/2017 2:21:08 AM PDT by aces
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To: NKP_Vet

Most will leave on their own, when free surgery/treatment is denied. It is cosmetic and Military only pays cosmetic for active duty who are injured. Rest you pay for.


7 posted on 08/24/2017 3:33:58 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: Spiridon

Somewhere there is a liberal, activist judge itching to overturn this ban.


8 posted on 08/24/2017 4:39:57 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Russ

The number #1 mission for the military is to defend the country, not a left-wing social experiment. Such distractions weakens the military.


9 posted on 08/24/2017 5:26:39 AM PDT by FreedBird
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Guess what?
If you have arthritis you are banned from serving or if you have onset while serving, you’re out (depending on the medical boards).

There are hundreds and hundreds of conditions, diseases, situations, whatever, that will disqualify someone from entering or continuing to serve.


10 posted on 08/24/2017 5:48:18 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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I disagree that he is already going back on his word. The tweeted "rule" was clearly a common-English summary of the intent. The deployability-based decision making process is the only way to structure a policy that will have the proximal effect of a "ban".

Turning away anyone not currently in for being transgender isn't too much of an issue. Removing anyone who is already in is the problem - No one has a 'right' to serve, but once you enter into the contract, both sides are bound to its terms.

Without a clear, need-based set of rules, any policy will be immediately declared null as being arbitrary. Even with a clear, need-based set of rules, that is not an unlikely outcome, knowing the federal courts and how the left knows which judges are friendly.

Just my opinion.

From the article: Employing the criteria of deployability to remove service members is bound to be greeted with deep opposition.

This, in and of itself, illustrates very clearly the problem with leftists regarding the military. If a soldier (sailor, airman, marine, etc.) is not deployable, they are incapable of doing their job in case of need on part of the country. Therefore, they forfeit their position in the military - especially when the cause of not being deployable is a permanent illness.

If a person is diabetic, they are non deployable, and would be mustered out right quick. Why is a mental illness considered less debilitating?

11 posted on 08/24/2017 5:50:16 AM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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To: GailA
Most will leave on their own, when free surgery/treatment is denied. It is cosmetic and Military only pays cosmetic for active duty who are injured. Rest you pay for.

I personally knew of a shipmate that had a tattoo go sour and got discharged over all the downstream medical and loss of duty status. The tattoo was an elective and voluntary medically based alteration. Why yes I am placing transgender surgery into the same rough category as a tattoo if anything voluntary/ elective results in not-fit-for-full-duty status or causes non-standard medical attention tax-payers get stuck with.

12 posted on 08/24/2017 5:54:29 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: upchuck

I can still remember a time when having braces disqualified you from worldwide deployment

It seems to me all they need to do is make the use of drugs like steroids and hormones as much a disqualifier as antidepressants and adhd meds

And refuse to cover sex change elective surgery
Other elective procedures are already off the list of covered procedures

If you render yourself unfit for worldwide deployment - out you go


13 posted on 08/24/2017 6:27:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: All

The military is no place for social engineering.


14 posted on 08/24/2017 6:50:45 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: silverleaf

The LBGTXYZ crowd has read the abbreviated version of the rules that says you’ll have to be “deployable”. Well in a sane person’s mind if you’re having an heart operation or any other medical procedure done, you’re not deployable and ready to go and fight a war. The LBGTXYZ crowd is saying “transgender” surgery, to include an operation and all kinds of recovery, to include drugs you have to be on for the rest of your life, is no different than someone having a gall stone operation or any other kind of operation and when these people are well enough to deploy they do just that. The LBGTXYZ crowd is tone deaf to what the president has said. They say he’s discriminating against them because they need to have time to “transition” and the military should do whatever they need to see their “transition” goes smoothly before they’re deployed. In other words Donald Trump does not exist and the Supreme Court will have the final say. Where they’ll rule that yes indeed the president does have the say about who can be in the military and who can. He’s the Commander in Chief. They would’t take my brother because he was born with diabetes.


15 posted on 08/24/2017 9:58:26 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: MortMan

Obama’s Executive Order put “transgenders” in the military. It was never approved by Congress and it was never recommended by the JCS after lengthy studies. As a matter of fact every study down through the years said no to open homosexuals in the military, no to women in combat and no to those with physical or mental disorders. The military never wanted to become a big social experiment laboratory. Obama ORDERED it and make it happen with the stroke of a pen, because that’s what he wanted. He didn’t give a damn about what every military study had said for the last 200 years, and that was an affirmative no because none of the things I mentioned improves mission effectiveness. You change things that will improve the military, not hamper the mission.

President Trump by Executive Order can end all “transgenders” from serving in the military, he can say no to women in combat and he can stop open homosexuals from serving in the military.


16 posted on 08/24/2017 7:31:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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