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To: Raymond Pamintuan
Given enough time and the chemical opportunity, living cells self-assemble.

A wild assumption with absolutely no basis for belief. It's like saying, "And then a miracle happened!"

Which is actually fine if you are both a Believer and a Scientist. But secular humanists, who see only a material world, should not be allowed to "do science" on the basis of "And then a miracle happened!"

4 posted on 08/25/2017 7:48:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sagan said that all the time “and then quite by accident, life appeared.” All that brain power and that’s the only conclusion he could draw.


7 posted on 08/25/2017 7:51:20 AM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ask some atheist/secular humanist sometime:

What happened 5 seconds before The Big Bang?..............

[answer: God said, “Let there be light!”................]


8 posted on 08/25/2017 7:52:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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9 posted on 08/25/2017 7:52:59 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Given enough time and the chemical opportunity, living cells self-assemble.

That's the same fallacy as "Given enough time and 100 chimpanzees with 100 typewriters will produce the plays of Shakespeare."........

13 posted on 08/25/2017 7:54:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Raymond Pamintuan

“Given enough time and the chemical opportunity, living cells self-assemble.”

Yes, just like we’ll eventually find a fully assembled iPhone or Ferrari on a planet with no intelligent life.


46 posted on 08/25/2017 8:34:41 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: ClearCase_guy

A wild assumption with absolutely no basis for belief. It’s like saying, “And then a miracle happened!”

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We simply don’t know how abiogenesis occurred. We do have a good idea of the environment, that it was much different than today, and that it only occurred once.

The well respected Christian philosopher, Alvin Plantinga, believes that evolution supports theism more than it supports naturalism.

Just because we don’t know how it happened, doesn’t mean it was a miracle.


48 posted on 08/25/2017 8:40:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That was the late AE Wilder-Smith’s whole point with his review of “The great debate” between Huxley and Wilberforce.

Complex structures ALWAYS fall apart easier than they go together.

The whole “formula for life” promoted today is nothing but a variant of the “gambler’s fallacy.”


51 posted on 08/25/2017 8:46:33 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: ClearCase_guy
A wild assumption with absolutely no basis for belief. It's like saying, "And then a miracle happened!"

Yes because evolution is religion. Actually it's idolatry.

Jer 2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

59 posted on 08/25/2017 9:14:42 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
A wild assumption with absolutely no basis for belief. It's like saying, "And then a miracle happened!"

Which is actually what this pro-Creator article argues.

98 posted on 08/26/2017 6:32:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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